What to do about DK's AMS

[Eklavya]

What do you guys do in BGs, Duels or Arenas when a DK pops AMS and starts off-loading on you?
This is not taking in consideration what your teammates can do for you.

[smegdawg]

wait for it to fall off?

[taurenburger]

Nvm, AMS is something different than I had in mind...

[Eklavya]

Here's the thing. In 5 seconds of stun, a Rogue can finish you off. In 5 seconds of throwdown a Warrior can own you.

In 5 seconds of AMS a DK can kill you except you can't trinket out of it and do something about it. You just have to take it as game over if the DK pops AMS. If portal is not up I don't see what can be done and even if it is up, it can be countered by DG.

Now, when I say the above I don't mean from full health to dead. So, don't reply with what's your res answers pls.

[Hellfury]

run, kite, teleport, /afk, /exit, leavebg, ragequit, /tableflip, pcthoughthewindow.

Any of this work fine not in this specific order

[Psilar]

Demonic Portal, and hope you're out of deathgrip range

[Lirina]

What do you guys do in BGs, Duels or Arenas when a DK pops AMS and starts off-loading on you?
This is not taking in consideration what your teammates can do for you.

What I've seen pro warlocks do against bad to semi decent DKs is pop Healthstone + stone thingy, cast a fire spell such as Searing pain eat the kick then drain the pet.

[Niberion]

What I've seen pro warlocks do against bad to semi decent DKs is pop Healthstone + stone thingy, cast a fire spell such as Searing pain eat the kick then drain the pet.

Except that not every dk is unholy or uses his pet to burst you down and that it is actually a better to just run around a bit, trying to stay out of the dks range while placing your instant dots on the pet so you can soul swap them over once ams is down.

And not sure what you consider pro but knowing that most dks use glyphed strangulate, it's a bad idea to let em interrupt you; even when casting fire spells...

[muto]

Teleport, if he death grips you or runs at you, stun him with a felguard, and felstorm his ass, as soon as the stun is coming to an end start to cast hand of gul'dan or fear, his ams should be down by that point.

Must be Demo ofc. for 3 of those abilities.

Afflic, and Destro you're probably screwed, maybe pop nether protection to negate some damage as Destro. and shoot him with chaos bolt. Affliction, you're probably screwed, which is why I don't play Afflic. obviously, I like being able to counter all classes, Demo lets me do that.

[Eklavya]

Can this be done? And if not then why?

1. Summon Voidwalker.
2. Cast Sacrifice.
3. Cast Soul Harvest for the period when you cannot be interrupted.

[myeviltwin]

cant cast soul harvest in combat, but ye healthstone and VW shield and run is the best you can do without a portal up i would say

[squidbear]

just pop demon armor and tank it. only portal if you've set it out of LoS otherwise you'll be gripped back in. if you're in dire straits then Soulburn: Healthstone. in group PvP make sure to Demon Armor through it too for the extra heals and tiny damage mitigation (5% physical I think). hope for a melee peel, if not just wait for it to drop and Howl/Coil/fake cast and fear. if you're stuck without cooldowns once it comes down and you're low, remember you can spell lock and he can't interrupt your casts, so you can single cast a fear too.

[niteline]

How the hell can a DK kill you in a AMS?
First of all, you have portal.
Second of all you are ranged. So you should keep moving the whole time.
If he deathgrips you, dont stand still with puppy eyes begging the DK not to kill you... run away!
Change armor type for that moment, Cast blueblob and sacrifice
-> not sure if works, get succy out and knockback (never needed to do this)
Healthstones work pretty good, pots aswell if in BG/duel

Most of all you should controll a DK, Get your dots on and kite him. His HP goes naturally down at some point he will have to go into AMS. But he will have to heal/def aswell
So either when you think he is about to cast that Deathcoil him or DC him right after that with a fear when it ends
During this lapse you can drain life.

No rogues will kill you in 1 stun, no warriors kill you in 1 stun. The pvp part is based on resilience and by now you should have at least 4k and that is enough to survive.
Not saying you are op or whatever but you have a trinket vs those classes. DK's can only silence you and use AMS. The rest of their tools is to counter your mobility (DG/Chains)
If you play BG's you shoulndt go 1 on 1 with a fully buffed DK if you just died or dont have Soul link up. If you plan to go 1 on 1 with a dk try to get succy out and get him seduced so you can place your portal and start of with some ranged

duels? game is not balanced there. 2vs2? play with either a rogue or a healer, or maybe a frost mage to keep range most of the time.

[Netherspark]

Run away and maybe try to cast Chaos Bolt?

Oh, Whiplash from the Succbus CAN affect them while AMS is active.

[user18]

I just killed dk in ams with one fel flame. On beta though.

[Zeezus]

I have no solid tactic against DKs especially in Duels (I rarely duel) as my standard role is just dispell protection and pressure. But spotting them at range is a big plus as they will generally hit AMS (if it is up) when they are a few yards from you so they dont waste it - you can put up CoEx at massive distances and AMS doesnt get rid of it - so always try and get that up pronto.

Use your pets aswell, knockback works wonders, the imps friendly dispel is god like for removing his Chains on you, and my favourite for DKs is a spell lock from your felhunter into a full fear (since DKs interrupt is a spell, it can be blanket silenced!) if you can get this early on in the fight it will put some distance between you and may force him to Deathgrip you.. allowing you to teleport away and laugh at his foolishness!

Void Sacrifice is pretty pointless and a waste of a soulburn in my opinion, it's like a 13k shield at best, would much rather save soulburn for my teleport or healthstone.

[squidbear]

How the hell can a DK kill you in a AMS?
First of all, you have portal.
Second of all you are ranged. So you should keep moving the whole time.
If he deathgrips you, dont stand still with puppy eyes begging the DK not to kill you... run away!
Change armor type for that moment, Cast blueblob and sacrifice
-> not sure if works, get succy out and knockback (never needed to do this)
Healthstones work pretty good, pots aswell if in BG/duel

Most of all you should controll a DK, Get your dots on and kite him. His HP goes naturally down at some point he will have to go into AMS. But he will have to heal/def aswell
So either when you think he is about to cast that Deathcoil him or DC him right after that with a fear when it ends
During this lapse you can drain life.

No rogues will kill you in 1 stun, no warriors kill you in 1 stun. The pvp part is based on resilience and by now you should have at least 4k and that is enough to survive.
Not saying you are op or whatever but you have a trinket vs those classes. DK's can only silence you and use AMS. The rest of their tools is to counter your mobility (DG/Chains)
If you play BG's you shoulndt go 1 on 1 with a fully buffed DK if you just died or dont have Soul link up. If you plan to go 1 on 1 with a dk try to get succy out and get him seduced so you can place your portal and start of with some ranged

duels? game is not balanced there. 2vs2? play with either a rogue or a healer, or maybe a frost mage to keep range most of the time.

Portal is hard countered by Deathgrip, and running away is really great when you have CoI on you and he's moving at 120% speed. you literally have to tank an AMS. also, sure you won't be killed in a stun, but a Rogue with Legendaries and HC Vial (which is every second Rogue over 1500 atm) can take 80% of your health with a Garotte easily.

[Fuqup]

Curse of Exhaustion + kite using portal. AMS doesn't stop curses, only magic debuffs. Keep putting damage into his shield as you kite b/c you can pop it early, and it doesn't remove DoTs that were up before he used it. Also this goes without saying but be in demon armor.

[dotsteiner]

Curse of Exhaustion + kite using portal. AMS doesn't stop curses, only magic debuffs. Keep putting damage into his shield as you kite b/c you can pop it early, and it doesn't remove DoTs that were up before he used it. Also this goes without saying but be in demon armor.

you're not going to do enough damage to "pop"' ams unless he's not wearing resilience

if you already have ua up on a dk you can still extend it with fel flame while ams is up. also, spell lock before he's going to use it