Drug Testing at the Job

[IIamaKing]

Quick Fix, buy it, and keep it on you at all times. OR quit. I choose Quick Fix I have passed upwards of 7 drug panels and my friends have also passed a large number of tests.

[RoKPaNda]

Honestly I'm fine with the random drug testing. Whether or not you think your vice should be legal, if you want to keep your career you should abstain from breaking the law eh? I have no problem with potheads, but I don't hire them and with search and seizure laws being what they are I don't travel with them, I don't let them in my house, etc.

[undercovergnome]

i dont think you should have resigned, does your job not have to help you if you are caught using drugs?, if your going to get busted go to your boss and break down and tell them that the stress of the job has lead you to drug abuse and that you are looking to jesus for help = rehab and not being fired

[IIamaKing]

Dear Scientists,

Please provide a testing procedure that will determine if somebody is currently under the influence of cannabis.

Your friends,

Responsible, gainfully employed members of US society

No business would use it. They like to use the ones that keep you sober. Businesses WANT drug free employes and a test that shows back a month is FAR more desirable.

[Roose]

Sweet. One down, countless more to go. WTF does that mean?

It doesn't matter if you think pot is 'safe'...it's an illegal drug, and that's that. Argue all you want, but it's the law. I'm assuming you KNEW your work could test you at any time (I'm pretty sure every work place is required to tell you when they hire you) so it's YOUR bad for being stupid enough to do it. Sorry about the job loss, but you brought that on yourself.

I am not arguing shit. No, I did not know about it. Please do not call people stupid. That is very rude.

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It sucks, but as someone previously posted if you want to keep your...um...recreational hobby, then find a company that won't test you.

That is the plan. Luckily I have fallback options.

[Gamdwelf]

I am not arguing shit. No, I did not know about it. Please do not call people stupid. That is very rude.

So you didn't know pot was illegal?

[Roose]

No business would use it. They like to use the ones that keep you sober. Businesses WANT drug free employes and a test that shows back a month is FAR more desirable.

Ya, but it does not catch all the really bad drugs a month back, just weed. A crackhead could pass in a few days of sobriety.

[MerinPally]

If you want to gamble by taking an illegal drug then do so but don't cry when your employer is less than impressed. Having a drugs offence however minor just causes so many problems.

Noone gives a damn how you think weed should be decriminalised or how it's less of a threat than alcohol, the law says otherwise. You took the risk and lost. I would say "Better luck next time" but I don't really think that, seeing as ya know, it's illegal what you're doing.

[Roose]

So you didn't know pot was illegal?

No, I did not. Never heard that in my life. Do you have any shining bits of knowledge for me?

[Malist]

Ya, but it does not catch all the really bad drugs a month back, just weed. A crackhead could pass in a few days of sobriety.

Your point?

[Tonystark]

I knew a bunch of guys while in the Navy that simply did acid. It isn't picked up in a urine test and only able to get found by a spinal tap which they don't do. Of course I have never looked this up to see if it is true or not but they were most definitely tripping.

[MerinPally]

Dear Scientists,

Please provide a testing procedure that will determine if somebody is currently under the influence of cannabis.

Your friends,

Responsible, gainfully employed members of US society

This exists in the same way that it does for alcohol. We know the levels that are required in your blood stream, to make an impact.

However, noone gives a damn whether it is past this level. The knowledge that you are a USER is enough. Sure, you may not be high at the time of the drugs test, but unless you want a drugs test everyday then this knowledge is pointless because they could be high half the days and just got lucky and not be tested.

Second hand inhalation will create such a miniscule peak that it gets filtered out. Any use of an illegal substance is too much.

tl;dr what you have said already exists, however, when it comes to an illegal substance especially, noone gives a damn whether you are currently or were on it a week ago. It was present, it could happen again and whilst you're working. Goodbye employee.


EDIT:

Ya, but it does not catch all the really bad drugs a month back, just weed. A crackhead could pass in a few days of sobriety.

So... whats your point exactly? There are limits as to what can be detected. I'm sorry the human body annoys you in this way and that you think it's unfair, I suggest you take it up with God/Allah or whoever you believe in. If the human body gets rid of opiates faster than canabinoids then this is not the scientists problems. It's still your problem for choosing to take it in the first place.

Deal-with-it.jpg.

[grandpapeckinpah]

So you didn't know pot was illegal?

That's irrelevant. Not all companies in the U.S. test or even care. There are plenty of misdemeanors (depending on the state) that people break while being employed that they are not fired for. The issue here is that the OP broke his employment contract unknowingly. Yes he knew it was illegal but he didn't know he'd be tested. In the context of being fired, the legality doesn't matter, only what the company policy says does.

Obv the company was against it, and if you smoke regularly it's the sort of thing you should check on.

I feel for ya OP. I worked at a Adult/Novelty store in my college days, and I would see the customers come in to buy cleanser stuff only to call back bitching later when it failed. I always wanted to tell them then that I wouldn't trust this stuff myself, but instead toed the company line. Good luck with your new job prospects, and make sure to find a more "understanding" environment this time around!

[BLCalliente]

Yet they still have the right to fire you for whatever reason. And an employee that partakes in illegal activities is a good reason. Whether it is at work or not.

Believe it or not, some companies out there don't give a shit what you do on your own time.

A test like this would allow them to remain OSHA compliant, qualify for insurance premium deductions because they drug test, and still let people have privacy of their own bodies.

[Mathyou]

Your point?

Also, show me some solid statistics on how many crackheads simply "use occasionally" or can "quit for a few days, whenever they like".

[Roose]

I feel sorry that you lost your job, but honestly, its your fault. You knew the risks, and chose to ignore them.

The worst part is, my brother in law was fired for the same thing, and has been turned down for a few jobs because the previous employer is allowed to tell the prospective employer calling for a reference that you were terminated for failing a drug screening.

I want to reiterate that I was not told about any drug tests. That is also the reason why I resigned instead of taking another test to fail.

[bals]

Them the ropes OP.
If you didn't want to possibly lose your job you shouldn't have been smoking.
You likely signed a piece of paper when you were hired that said they could randomly drug test you but you forgot/ignored it

[Clevername]

Sucks man, really does but you summed it up in the last sentence, you knew the consequences, still took a chance and suffered the repercussions.

[Roose]

Shoulda drank a sh*t ton of water before, and during the test.

Drinking heavy amounts of water will temporarily cause the weed not to be seen.

I'm Srsly now...
http://jezebel.com/5903813/how-to-pass-a-drug-test

My test was kicked back for being diluted. I was going to have to take a supervised test where they watch the piss come from my penis. Like I am some sort of inmate.

[jaelrin]

Why so many drug apologists on MMO-champ? Lots of similar threads recently.

We have a saying, which roughly translated from Russian is: Today's young women and men say "You should try everything in life." By "everything" they usually mean drugs, homosexuality, and shooting porn. Much less - a nuclear physics, rock climbing and chess.

Mind altering substances are not bad by themselves, if used properly - for medicinal or spiritual purposes (like Ayahuasca by native south american people). But paired with modern Western "let's just have fun" mindset they are bad and dangerous.