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    China dissident Chen Guangcheng 'in US embassy'

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-17877005

    China dissident Chen Guangcheng is in the US embassy in Beijing following his dramatic escape from house arrest, fellow activist Hu Jia has told the BBC.

    Mr Hu said Mr Chen - who is blind - had scaled a high wall and was driven hundreds of kilometres to Beijing.

    Mr Chen escaped on Sunday, activists say, and has since released a video addressed to Prime Minister Wen Jiabao.

    There are reports that his brother and nephew have now been held by police.

    The rights group Human Rights in China quoted a source who knew about Mr Chen, and said his nephew Chen Kegui was taken away from his home by more than 30 police officers.

    The UN human rights chief Navi Pillay said she was concerned for the wellbeing of Mr Chen and his family, who live in Dongshigu town, Shandong province.

    "I'm disturbed to hear reports that other family members, including his brother Chen Guangfu and nephew Chen Kegui, have now been detained," she said in a statement.

    The US state department has refused to comment on the claim that Mr Chen is in its embassy. The US embassy in Beijing has also not commented.
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    Around midnight, about two hours ago, they entered our property by jumping over the enclosed walls, they pried open the locks and kicked on the doors”

    Chen Kegui Nephew of Chen Guangcheng, who lives in same town
    Unidentified raiders

    Blogger Yaxue Cao says he spoke to Chen Kegui on Friday at about 01:30 local time (Thursday 17:30 GMT), and he has transcribed the interview on his blog Seeing Red in China.

    The transcript suggests that at the time of the interview Chen Guangfu had already been detained.

    Chen Kegui was awaiting police arrest, having initially resisted an attempt to detain him by unidentified men less than two hours before by slashing at them with kitchen knives.

    "Around midnight, about two hours ago, they entered our property by jumping over the enclosed walls, they pried open the locks and kicked on the doors. I heard my mother crying inside, helplessly: 'Please don't come in! Please don't come in!'"

    Chen Kegui, who often sobs during the interview, insists: "I did not take knives to go out to kill anyone. I was defending myself in my own home. They attempted to apprehend me without showing any warrant."

    Chen Guangcheng uses the video posted on YouTube to confirm he was under house arrest

    The interview ends with Mr Chen saying: "I don't know whether the police are coming. Perhaps they will send a sniper to kill me. They would accuse me of killing. It's all possible."
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    Chen Guangcheng, 40, was placed under house arrest after being released from a four-year jail sentence in 2010. Reports suggest authorities only realised he had escaped on Thursday.

    Mr Hu - a friend of Mr Chen and himself a prominent activist and dissident - said he had met him in the last 72 hours, since his escape.

    He said Mr Chen had fled to the US embassy in Beijing.
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    Chen Guangcheng

    Born 12 Nov 1971
    Nickname: The Barefoot Lawyer
    Went blind as a child
    Campaigned for women forced to have abortions or sterilisation under China's one child per family policy
    Jailed for four years in 2006 for disrupting traffic and damaging property
    Released from jail in 2010 placed under house arrest
    Daughter barred from school during much of 2011, reports say
    Escapes house arrest, April 2012

    Profile: Chen Guangcheng
    Chen's escape ignites Chinese microblogs
    China's voices of dissent

    In his video addressed to Prime Minister Wen, delivered from a darkened room, Mr Chen said outwitting his guards had not been easy.

    In the appeal, posted online by Boxun, a Chinese dissident news website based in the United States, he asks that:

    Prime Minister Wen investigate and prosecute local officials Mr Chen says beat up his family members
    The safety of his family be ensured
    Corruption in general in China be dealt with and punished according to the law

    The Chinese authorities have come under international criticism for their treatment of him. At one point his daughter was barred from school. Many sympathisers who have tried to visit his home say they have been beaten up.

    A self-schooled legal activist, Mr Chen is known for revealing rights abuses under China's one-child policy and has accused officials in Shandong province of forcing 7,000 women into abortions or sterilisations.
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    The plight of Mr Chen has become famous around the world. US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has repeatedly called for his release and is due to visit Beijing next week.

    He Peirong, another China-based activist who had also campaigned for Chen Guangcheng, has also been detained at her home in Nanjing according to other activists.

    The Chen affair comes at an unwelcome time for China's leaders, who have been embroiled in a lurid political scandal involving disgraced former party boss Bo Xilai.
    All hail the rise of glorious communist China! Down with western capitalist pigs and individual liberty! Down with America!

    Sorry - just thought I needed to appease the America bashers here real quick...can't ever have the US seen as being a benevolent force now can we? In all seriousness - what would you do here? The US embassy probably has this guy - and it's someone we've said should be released...but do we dare upset our communist benefactors?

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    What is the worst China will do for a blind man? Who knows, who cares.

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    Man, with an OP like that how could I not want to get involved in the thread?

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    Poor dudes blind... also he supposedly revealed forced abortions and sterilizations, no wonder they want him shut up.

    Prime example of a country that pretends to be communist/socialist when its actually just a police state, where everything is run by the government. Cant believe people in the west want to adopt it because big scary old capitalism hurt there feelings.

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    I'm not aware of anyone in the west who wants to adopt China's economic systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    I'm not aware of anyone in the west who wants to adopt China's economic systems.
    See "Democrat"

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    Quote Originally Posted by titan972 View Post
    See "Democrat"
    Wait where has a democrat advocated mimicking china's economic system?

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    Well this is off to a good start.

    Anyway, you two arguing reminded me of this

    It's the world according to Liberal Arts majors

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    A blind man escaped Chinese authorities. Blind man. Hollywood, get the hell on this story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azivalla View Post
    A blind man escaped Chinese authorities. Blind man. Hollywood, get the hell on this story.
    Book of Eli

    Terrible story/movie, same premise. Probably 100% better with asianess (and obligatory fighting robots and ninjas and karate and shit)

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    why should we care about one man ? aren't hundreds dying in africa + middle east ? why dont we stop being hypocrites and create a story for each human ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandus View Post
    why should we care about one man ? aren't hundreds dying in africa + middle east ? why dont we stop being hypocrites and create a story for each human ?
    Why should we care about hundreds if we shouldn't care about one? is one life not worth caring about because more are suffering?

    China is a country of millions, so caring about how the government treats one of its civilians is caring about how they treat them as a whole, as changes made to help that 1 citizen will help others suffering in the same way. This person in the story actually escaped and helped himself though, and we should care about this one individual and not be called hypocrites from a random person because people are able to do something to help him.
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    All hail the rise of glorious communist China! Down with western capitalist pigs and individual liberty! Down with America!

    Sorry - just thought I needed to appease the America bashers here real quick...can't ever have the US seen as being a benevolent force now can we? In all seriousness - what would you do here? The US embassy probably has this guy - and it's someone we've said should be released...but do we dare upset our communist benefactors?
    Right, I'm not a massive fan of communism as an economic system. Although I think it has some interesting principles, I'm generally of the view that it leads to totalitarianism, or with those on top being so greedy and selfish that they corrupt the system with nepotism and dictatorship. Would you care to explain what mine or your views of communism have to do with this interesting news story?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandus View Post
    why should we care about one man ? aren't hundreds dying in africa + middle east ? why dont we stop being hypocrites and create a story for each human ?
    Stories like this arean't really about "one person". It's representative of a social environment which affects millions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalyyn View Post
    Well this is off to a good start.

    Anyway, you two arguing reminded me of this

    It's the world according to Liberal Arts majors
    Hey, I'm an English major (with a minor in Philosophy) and I take offense to that. Well, not really offense...you know what I mean.

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