Dual Wield

[DemoBytom]

On Main Page it says that Dual Wield is now Windwalker ability - does it mean that only Windwalkers will be able to dualwield?
Also the tooltip says "Monk - Brewmaster spec".. So WTF?

I thought that we were supposed to take either 2x1h or 2h depending on our preferences, not be limited to 1 playstyle via spec o_O

[Wildspirit]

yeah that's confusing... will have to wait and see

[zito]

I thought the orginal intention was brewmaster was going to use staves and polearms, windwalkers duel wield or staff and polearm and mistweavers staves and 1h+oh?

[Yorgl]

I just logged on the beta and it seems that the three specs have DW.
I guess it's a bug otherwise, it doesn't make sense.

[Noviskers]

Either way it doesn't really matter too much since DW will be a decrease in performance for any spec besides WW. The only time it becomes "viable" is if it is more for a role playing perspective then you have an issue. Otherwise BM monks will use a staff or polearm, healers will use a 1h/oh or staff and WW will DW or use a staff/pole arm. Though I wish they would make DW tanking viable since that was my favorite part of LK was frost DW tanking for the short time it was viable.

[Eggowaffles]

Either way it doesn't really matter too much since DW will be a decrease in performance for any spec besides WW. The only time it becomes "viable" is if it is more for a role playing perspective then you have an issue. Otherwise BM monks will use a staff or polearm, healers will use a 1h/oh or staff and WW will DW or use a staff/pole arm. Though I wish they would make DW tanking viable since that was my favorite part of LK was frost DW tanking for the short time it was viable.

DW isn't even all that great for Wind Walkers, atm 2H is slightly better.

[Nikkaszal]

Either way it doesn't really matter too much since DW will be a decrease in performance for any spec besides WW. The only time it becomes "viable" is if it is more for a role playing perspective then you have an issue. Otherwise BM monks will use a staff or polearm, healers will use a 1h/oh or staff and WW will DW or use a staff/pole arm. Though I wish they would make DW tanking viable since that was my favorite part of LK was frost DW tanking for the short time it was viable.

Hey man, I hear that it's the early stages of beta and numbers parses and fixes won't happen till much later.

Relax, the plan is to make 2H and DW not just "viable" for both melee specs, but as damn close to completely even as possible.

All the abilities are based off weapon DPS and attack power, not weapon damage. The only thing that the two weapon styles will differ in is auto-attack damage. That is the ONLY THING THEY DIFFER IN. Special abilities cap their hit at the same rate for both DW and 2H. Energy regeneration is based upon haste and time, not attacking. Saying flat out that "DW is better than 2H" or vice versa for any of the monks specs at this point in a bloody beta test is asinine.

[Tatuin]

mistweavers cant DW anymore on beta. I just tried it and i couldnt equipe two maces in my hands

[coocoo]

mistweavers cant DW anymore on beta. I just tried it and i couldnt equipe two maces in my hands

My lvl 21 BM monk is currently wearing onehand mace+sword without issues...

[Nikkaszal]

mistweavers cant DW anymore on beta. I just tried it and i couldnt equipe two maces in my hands

Not a big deal as there shouldn't be any healing offhand weapons any more. Most healing 1handers are limited to 1H.

If a MW wants to slap on agi gear and DPS, they can always use a staff or polearm.

[taheen74]

I made a point about this for MW monks:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en-us/forum/topic/4768328333

Seriously, they need to let MW be able to dual wield or get rid of the whole "melee healer" model all together. Making a "melee healer" class and then giving them 1 option as far as weapons go is just plain dumb. Goes against what they are trying to promote with monks.

[huth]

mistweavers cant DW anymore on beta. I just tried it and i couldnt equipe two maces in my hands

Did you try it with caster maces? Those are all Main Hand for good reason.

On a somewhat unrelated note, i noticed earlier that Monks no longer use their weapons for auto attack, only for Jab.

[Bulli85]

DW isn't even all that great for Wind Walkers, atm 2H is slightly better.

lolwut.. I'm doing a lot better DW than using a 2H with my WW.. my abilities show more dmg with DW and of course i have a lot more tiger strikes procs

[Yorgl]

I made a point about this for MW monks:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en-us/forum/topic/4768328333

Seriously, they need to let MW be able to dual wield or get rid of the whole "melee healer" model all together. Making a "melee healer" class and then giving them 1 option as far as weapons go is just plain dumb. Goes against what they are trying to promote with monks.

I can't post on US forums, but you could suggest this (if you like the idea) : why not adding something to Way of the Monk, giving viability to 1H+OH ? Like having this configuration upgrade upgrade all damage done (for example) in order to make 1H+OH damage the same as a staff damage for a Mistweaver ?

[Vayra]

You can't DW until you pick your spec at LV 10. I'm not sure if this is a bug or not.. rather annoying ~_~