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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post

    And yes it would fix things if they let people transfer how ever they wanted in combination with announcing the closure of the 16, yes 16, low population PvP English servers and use the 5-6 remaining once only.
    While I agree consolidation is key, I don't think letting people transfer however they wanted would neccesarily fix things. Targeted realm transfers probably are the best unless you can give me a reason why fatman blew up over naddist rebels? We'd just have more que times on Fatman. The thing is people don't understand is that you don't want EVERY server full with a que time. The population is definetly spread out a bit to thin atm but if you consolidate and condense everything into 3 servers that everybody picked to go to that would suck balls as well.

  2. #22
    OR we can just wait for more players to start playing the game? That would definitely boost servers. If they were to shut down servers people would start screaming that the game is failing, blah blah blah. It would be a huge PR mistake.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Forsedar View Post
    OR we can just wait for more players to start playing the game? That would definitely boost servers. If they were to shut down servers people would start screaming that the game is failing, blah blah blah. It would be a huge PR mistake.
    On peak time Tomb has on republic side 250 in fleet, 250 in WZ, not checked more than that, on my light server we have just about enough to have 2-3 WZ rolling with only Imperials and 20-40 in fleet, at 4am Tomb has 100 fleet 100 WZ and my server has no WZ and 3-6 in fleet where at least 2 of them are the US guys that plays with us.

    If you want to hang around waiting for 16 of these servers to fill up by all means have fun with that, I won't nor will anyone in my guild as far as I know.
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  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Forsedar View Post
    OR we can just wait for more players to start playing the game? That would definitely boost servers. If they were to shut down servers people would start screaming that the game is failing, blah blah blah. It would be a huge PR mistake.
    I'm so tired of that argument. I get it and it makes sense but to be honest they shipped with way to many servers in the first place and it's a sad fucking state when we make allowances for game companies not doing the proper thing for fear of trolls and negative PR. Wtf is that? If your kids acted like that you'd punish them. They should IGNORE the trolls (and the gaming media) and do the correct thing. Again Rift is the better example here, not WoW. Rift consolidated/merged servers regardless of what people said. For the record I still think BW will eventually do this, cause I believe they have some sense. I just wish they would cut the foreplay and get to it asap.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyIommi View Post
    I'm so tired of that argument. I get it and it makes sense but to be honest they shipped with way to many servers in the first place and it's a sad fucking state when we make allowances for game companies not doing the proper thing for fear of trolls and negative PR. Wtf is that? If your kids acted like that you'd punish them. They should IGNORE the trolls (and the gaming media) and do the correct thing. Again Rift is the better example here, not WoW. Rift consolidated/merged servers regardless of what people said. For the record I still think BW will eventually do this, cause I believe they have some sense. I just wish they would cut the foreplay and get to it asap.
    Gaming Media = Investors = Money.

    You ruin the opinion of your game in the community, you ruin potential and current investors meaning you don't make the money you should be.

    I have fun with this game... so do A LOT of other people. Just like Bioware addressed: Those who complain on the forums do not represent the majority. The majority is in-game enjoying the game.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Forsedar View Post
    Gaming Media = Investors = Money.

    You ruin the opinion of your game in the community, you ruin potential and current investors meaning you don't make the money you should be.

    I have fun with this game... so do A LOT of other people. Just like Bioware addressed: Those who complain on the forums do not represent the majority. The majority is in-game enjoying the game.
    And server mergers do not affect that one god damned bit. If anything they increase the enjoyment for people who are currently playing the game on low pop servers. I don't see how you can make that argument without seeing the apparent contradiction in it. Investors don't care as long as they get a good ROI. They get a better ROI when more players are playing and happy and overhead is reduced. Merging servers does both of these things. As for the gaming media, who cares? Half of the people who actually read the gaming media think their bought off anyway and couldn't be trusted anyway. Their opinion carries such little weight with regards to server mergers and EA has such a massive spin machine that the negative press from such a move would be minimal at best. Again Trion is the better example here. Trion merged servers in Rift regardless of the spin because it was THE RIGHT THING TO DO. Not because it would garner them good press or they'd look like celebs and be on E now or some bs. They did it because it was good for their business and good for their player base.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyIommi View Post
    And server mergers do not affect that one god damned bit. If anything they increase the enjoyment for people who are currently playing the game on low pop servers. I don't see how you can make that argument without seeing the apparent contradiction in it. Investors don't care as long as they get a good ROI. They get a better ROI when more players are playing and happy and overhead is reduced. Merging servers does both of these things. As for the gaming media, who cares? Half of the people who actually read the gaming media think their bought off anyway and couldn't be trusted anyway. Their opinion carries such little weight with regards to server mergers and EA has such a massive spin machine that the negative press from such a move would be minimal at best. Again Trion is the better example here. Trion merged servers in Rift regardless of the spin because it was THE RIGHT THING TO DO. Not because it would garner them good press or they'd look like celebs and be on E now or some bs. They did it because it was good for their business and good for their player base.
    Also those who aren't very informed believe Rift is dead because of it. I know I basically was turned away from Rift because I was lead to believe that it was failing hardcore- even though its striving pretty well.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Forsedar View Post
    Also those who aren't very informed believe Rift is dead because of it. I know I basically was turned away from Rift because I was lead to believe that it was failing hardcore- even though its striving pretty well.
    Effectively your argument is that because people are ignorant or the fear is that people will be ignorant BW should not do server mergers. I'm sorry. I find it hard to swallow an argument about why something positive shouldn't get done because of stupid people. I also don't accept that people will remain ignorant. EA has a massive PR and spin machine on the order of the inner party. I don't expect they wouldn't have something in store to counter any negative press that comes from a merger.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyIommi View Post
    Effectively your argument is that because people are ignorant or the fear is that people will be ignorant BW should not do server mergers. I'm sorry. I find it hard to swallow an argument about why something positive shouldn't get done because of stupid people. I also don't accept that people will remain ignorant. EA has a massive PR and spin machine on the order of the inner party. I don't expect they wouldn't have something in store to counter any negative press that comes from a merger.
    The bad just outweighs the good in this scenario. No matter what, there will be a giant negative reaction. There was a huge reaction to the whole 'free month' thing. Could you imagine servers shutting down? Its just not worth the risk at this point. Server transfers to low population servers is the best move and they even decided its the best move. Its their job to figure these things out. Us 'little people' on forum boards really can't understand the inner workings of giant corporations.

  10. #30
    No dual spec on 1.3 come on seriously its 2012, should had been from start

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    I just wanted to pop in to this thread to say that every response from the Devs makes me extremely happy and feel great to be playing this game.

    So many people come to complain, but I honestly think they are being so proactive and starting to get everything right at a rapid pace. I can only hope that other players give them a vote of confidence with money, and not irate forum mouths, so that we can continue enjoying this game. I am am not a special snowflake and I am not entitled...so I am looking forward to the next 6 months of this game hardcore!

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Kittyvicious View Post
    I just wanted to pop in to this thread to say that every response from the Devs makes me extremely happy and feel great to be playing this game.

    So many people come to complain, but I honestly think they are being so proactive and starting to get everything right at a rapid pace. I can only hope that other players give them a vote of confidence with money, and not irate forum mouths, so that we can continue enjoying this game. I am am not a special snowflake and I am not entitled...so I am looking forward to the next 6 months of this game hardcore!
    They want to get things going before Summer... and the game just came out. We've had two content patches and loads of great improvements. Its not even May yet.

    I have extreme faith in this game if Bioware keeps it up.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Kittyvicious View Post
    So many people come to complain, but I honestly think they are being so proactive and starting to get everything right at a rapid pace. I can only hope that other players give them a vote of confidence with money, and not irate forum mouths, so that we can continue enjoying this game.
    I have given them my vote of confidence for 5 months, for the last month me and my guild has been waiting for word on how transfers will be handled, this is especially important to us as we have US players playing with us on EU servers, we don't even oppose re-rolling on a high populated server while waiting for transfers to then have our mains with legacy transfered to the server we choose to roll on. With this announcement they simply are taking that option away from us while asking for our patience until they get transfers sorted, it's simply gone beyond wanting is fast, or even slow for that matter at this point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kittyvicious View Post
    I am looking forward to the next 6 months of this game hardcore!
    So was I, sadly the prospect of another month or two facing the same 25-30 people in WZ's with a dead GTN and little to no other activity is killing that optimism fast.
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  14. #34
    Man you gotta chill.. WoW/RIFT all went through exactly the same phase.. They needed to launch tons of server at the start to satisfy people that power level as fast as they could.. but then ppl eventually log on less..

    Go take a rest.. I am sure once 1.4+ hits (that's about when they have group finder/server transfer/multi spec all finished).. They are going to start putting out some real contents.

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    In case you guys are wondering, you keep anything in your legacy you have unlocked like races and whatnot regardless of what server they end up on or if they separate. All I had to do was add a name when I transferred.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Semihage View Post
    Man you gotta chill.. WoW/RIFT all went through exactly the same phase.. They needed to launch tons of server at the start to satisfy people that power level as fast as they could.. but then ppl eventually log on less..

    Go take a rest.. I am sure once 1.4+ hits (that's about when they have group finder/server transfer/multi spec all finished).. They are going to start putting out some real contents.
    Way to miss the point.
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  17. #37
    if server tranfers will come in 'early summer' I doubt there will be someone left to transfer.
    but that`s just me.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by rogerwilko View Post
    if server tranfers will come in 'early summer' I doubt there will be someone left to transfer.
    but that`s just me.
    You know whats funny? Your signature shows 0 people on fleet... yet you're on fleet viewing it. There should be at least 1 person Nice try though.

    Also, tons and tons of people are still playing. Stop trying to derail threads with absolutely zero evidence or backing to your claims.

  19. #39
    One can see how many ppl are on any location / planet, even fleet from any other location. One can edit the "imperial fleet" text and check.

    I counted 40 Light EU pop servers yesterday at 9 pm CET.

    TONS of ppl may be playing now. But in "early summer" after 2 other games hit, we will see how many of them TONS of players will be playing swtor.

    Nice try though.

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by rogerwilko View Post
    One can see how many ppl are on any location / planet, even fleet from any other location. One can edit the "imperial fleet" text and check.

    I counted 40 Light EU pop servers yesterday at 9 pm CET.

    TONS of ppl may be playing now. But in "early summer" after 2 other games hit, we will see how many of them TONS of players will be playing swtor.

    Nice try though.
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