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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Forsedar View Post
    Clearly you have yet to play this game to 50. You have been reported to the Moderators. Good day to you.

    This is going over the line.

    There is something worse then trolls and that is fanatics.
    Your "extreme faith" is also called Fanaticism and is biasing your every comment on this forum to an extent where u started to reporting anyone that you think is "attacking" your favourite game ( used to be Wow then Rift and now its SW:ToR).

    You are a fanatic and quite frankly u have lost all credebility after reporting for petty reasons users as myself and others.


    Sorry for the trolling but blind fanatics enrages me.
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  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Antifanatic View Post
    This is going over the line.

    There is something worse then trolls and that is fanatics.
    Your "extreme faith" is also called Fanaticism and is biasing your every comment on this forum to an extent where u started to reporting anyone that you think is "attacking" your favourite game ( used to be Wow then Rift and now its SW:ToR).

    You are a fanatic and quite frankly u have lost all credebility after reporting for petty reasons users as myself and others.


    Sorry for the trolling but blind fanatics enrages me.
    I report those who have nothing to add to a discussion and derail threads that usually result in the thread being closed. I would rather someone be warned instead of an entire thread closing because of one person throwing around random attacks towards a game they do not understand.

    If you look, 90% of my posts are in the TOR forums. You call me a fanatic but I say I'm a realist. I look at the facts rather than make irrational statements. I use common sense instead of flawed logic. I look at both sides of the story instead of blindly attacking a game without a cause.

    You just made an account to call me a fanatic. You didn't contribute to the thread nor help stabilize it. You actually made this thread go further down the path that is the very reason WHY I reported this thread in the first place. You are doing nothing but proving my point.

    To make an account to insult another user is quite sad.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Antifanatic View Post
    This is going over the line.

    There is something worse then trolls and that is fanatics.
    Your "extreme faith" is also called Fanaticism and is biasing your every comment on this forum to an extent where u started to reporting anyone that you think is "attacking" your favourite game ( used to be Wow then Rift and now its SW:ToR).

    You are a fanatic and quite frankly u have lost all credebility after reporting for petty reasons users as myself and others.


    Sorry for the trolling but blind fanatics enrages me.
    I don't usually see him going into the wow/rift forums to make posts about how those games are "failing".

    I think its reasonable to be frustrated and even report people who take the extra step to come here and start crap.

    If forsedar went about acting like these other people do in the other game forums you can bet he would be reported and banned.

    I know that if I went over to the league of legends forums and started talking about how its meta is broken, that its skilless with its lack of on use items, and how DOTA 2 is going to topple it I would be banned.
    (Just so its known, I love league and don't believe what I just wrote about it. It was just to prove a point.)
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  4. #64
    Oh jeez.

    My "favorite" form of argument.

    Its 2012. We should have already begun colonizing mars.

    Its 2012. We should already have universal healthcare.

    Its 2012. We should have already cured aids.

    Its 2012. We should have already cured cancer.

    Its 2012. We should already be off fossil fuels.

    its 2012. We should already have VR mmos.

    Its 2012. We should already have left the middle east.

    Its 2012. We should already have flying cars.

    Its 2012. We should already have planet wide wifi.

    Its 2012. We should already have met aliens.
    Save the sarcasm for yourself.

    But I explain better

    A game as swtor that embraces the holy trinity philosophy so deep should had by today's mmo standards a way to switch specs easier, call it dual spec, multispec w/e, its not about the costs its mostly the praticality or lack thereoff, going to the fleet, rebind and having click 40 icons, Some ppl dont understand how much of a hassle that is because they are happy doing only 1 role or just pvp/pve

    Clearly the devs think its not a priority which is a shame in my opinion.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellfury View Post
    Clearly the devs think its not a priority which is a shame in my opinion.
    Clearly, that's why they keep calling it a priority.

    Its just not their top priority, and given the posts on both swtor.com and here I agree with their decision to implement a dungeon finders asap.

    Time is finite and they have to work within its constraints. Multispec is coming but not before the more important things.
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  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by CommanderSheephard View Post
    Clearly, that's why they keep calling it a priority.

    Its just not their top priority, and given the posts on both swtor.com and here I agree with their decision to implement a dungeon finders asap.

    Time is finite and they have to work within its constraints. Multispec is coming but not before the more important things.
    Iam not arguing the dungeon finder its not more important but for example in 1.2, the guild banks and the match gear to chest could are arguably less of a priority than a multispec system

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellfury View Post
    Iam not arguing the dungeon finder its not more important but for example in 1.2, the guild banks and the match gear to chest could are arguably less of a priority than a multispec system
    as you know, color match was already in game in beta. They were just ironing out a few glitches. In all likelihood they could have hot fixed it in at some point in 1.1 but waited to make a larger splash in 1.2.

    As to the guild bank thing? Sure. Though its possible that didn't take much development time.
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    I was very sad when I found out that dual/multi specc is not in 1.3

    I get it that different people have different priorities. I dont care a shit about cross-server pvp and group finder, but I can understand that a lot of other people think that is more important.. Anyway, sad that what I have hoped for since 1.1 doesnt come for a while yet...
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  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by JackHeart View Post
    I was very sad when I found out that dual/multi specc is not in 1.3

    I get it that different people have different priorities. I dont care a shit about cross-server pvp and group finder, but I can understand that a lot of other people think that is more important.. Anyway, sad that what I have hoped for since 1.1 doesnt come for a while yet...
    Off rails space pvp? Same here.
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  10. #70
    So we have to pay for transfers (free ones will suck tits), rofl so much fail, way to lose even more subs.

  11. #71
    Yeah having to pay for transfers does suck, but im really glad they are getting a dungeon finder of some kind out asap.

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    You are correct, as I play in a small but international old gaming community we have US players playing with us on a EU server hence we need a high population server to function well.

    And if we re-roll on a high population server today and have our mains with legacies transfered there at a later date it will not change the playing population on the heavy server in any way shape or form, it simply changes the number of characters available to us on said server. Only difference is that we would be forced to pay for it, or sit with the thumb up our collective asses for a month or two and hope for the best, while paying for them to make a transfer system, you must be able to see how backwards it is.



    Only if you don't understand it.
    Sounds like you are just speculating for the worst case to happen that will screw you in a major way.. But no where in the Q&A has BW even implied what's going to happen.. Hell.. maybe every character will get a 1 time free transfer right at the get go and some server will get permanent free transfer off (to facilitate merge).. Would that satisfy you? Maybe you can choose to transfer at Legay level. Because no where in Q&A says that will never happen.

    I can understand why you are frustrated that after 5 month server transfer/LFG/multi spec aren't here yet.. Trust me.. i am on the same boat.. That's why I believe if you need a break.. go take it.. I took plenty of breaks in WoW too (I literally skipped the entire TBC, and came back during WOTLK and unsubbed during the last 8 month of WOTLK).

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Semihage View Post
    Sounds like you are just speculating for the worst case to happen that will screw you in a major way.. But no where in the Q&A has BW even implied what's going to happen.. Hell.. maybe every character will get a 1 time free transfer right at the get go and some server will get permanent free transfer off (to facilitate merge).. Would that satisfy you? Maybe you can choose to transfer at Legay level. Because no where in Q&A says that will never happen.
    Speculation to some extent sure, will there be transfers to basically the only PvP server that makes sense for us as a collective to re-roll on right now, not a chance with the way they worded it, while there is a very slim chance that they will manage to get free transfers off our server to one that will become full, it's still very unlikely though.

    Either way I would be sitting around doing nothing until transfers arrive if I don't re-roll, and yes I know I could take a break but a break to do what, play some other game that I don't feel like playing just to fill my time, no if I head down that path I'll search until I find a game I want to play and as such won't have a reason to come back, especially not after being burned by the developer that put me in that position to begin with.
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  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    Speculation to some extent sure, will there be transfers to basically the only PvP server that makes sense for us as a collective to re-roll on right now, not a chance with the way they worded it, while there is a very slim chance that they will manage to get free transfers off our server to one that will become full, it's still very unlikely though.

    Either way I would be sitting around doing nothing until transfers arrive if I don't re-roll, and yes I know I could take a break but a break to do what, play some other game that I don't feel like playing just to fill my time, no if I head down that path I'll search until I find a game I want to play and as such won't have a reason to come back, especially not after being burned by the developer that put me in that position to begin with.
    Countless posts of negativity. For once try to look at the positive sides of things. Bioware is releasing FREE server transfers to re-populate smaller servers. They're doing it for the majority, not *you*. If they catered to the individual, this game would be a mess. If they catered to the majority of the forums, this game would be a mess. They are taking a step in the right direction with server transfers. Who says it won't work? To sit around complaining about something that has yet to happen is a waste of effort. Just sit back and smile for once. Negativity is the downfall of society. Living would be much more delightful if people just lightened up.

  15. #75
    hey fore if it makes you feel better,

    that dude created a new account so his actual account wouldnt get banned. he knew it, and he made a new one to sidestep that policy. i personally dont understand why people think that its necessary to bash a game when they can ignore it and make themselves much happier in the long run.

    IMO, the server transfers are kind of odd to go from high/mid to low pop servers. i understand the desire to even things out, but wouldn't it make more sense to try and condense a little, not make more servers suffer the few people syndrome?

    im not a bw employee, nor am i good at figuring these things out so its just me =) if someone could explain it to me id appreciate it

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneticVigilance View Post
    hey fore if it makes you feel better,

    that dude created a new account so his actual account wouldnt get banned. he knew it, and he made a new one to sidestep that policy. i personally dont understand why people think that its necessary to bash a game when they can ignore it and make themselves much happier in the long run.

    IMO, the server transfers are kind of odd to go from high/mid to low pop servers. i understand the desire to even things out, but wouldn't it make more sense to try and condense a little, not make more servers suffer the few people syndrome?

    im not a bw employee, nor am i good at figuring these things out so its just me =) if someone could explain it to me id appreciate it
    I cannot answer that for you unfortunately. However, I believe they are doing everything with good reasoning behind it. I am waiting for the next statement to see how many subscribers they have and maybe it will confirm a few things. I would love to see servers merged, but alas it would just cause issues among the community because people would scream the sky is falling. It would be better in the long run but I don't see server shutting down. It seems like it would be a hassle for those who have their legacy names and player names changed in the process. I for one would be really pissed if my character name was changed because my server shut down and I had to migrate to another server.

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    Like the sounds of it. Sad about there being no dual spec though.

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Forsedar View Post
    Countless posts of negativity. For once try to look at the positive sides of things. Bioware is releasing FREE server transfers to re-populate smaller servers. They're doing it for the majority, not *you*. If they catered to the individual, this game would be a mess. If they catered to the majority of the forums, this game would be a mess. They are taking a step in the right direction with server transfers. Who says it won't work? To sit around complaining about something that has yet to happen is a waste of effort. Just sit back and smile for once. Negativity is the downfall of society. Living would be much more delightful if people just lightened up.
    I don't think this is what they meant by their post.

    I think they are going to try and consolidated based off the whole "get players to a higher population server".
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  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Forsedar View Post
    Countless posts of negativity.
    Really dude, you think other should relax, you jump on anyone that has anything remotely negative to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by Forsedar View Post
    For once try to look at the positive sides of things.
    I'm positive about almost everything else about the game so no idea where this "for once" is coming from.

    Quote Originally Posted by Forsedar View Post
    Bioware is releasing FREE server transfers to re-populate smaller servers. They're doing it for the majority, not *you*. If they catered to the individual, this game would be a mess. If they catered to the majority of the forums, this game would be a mess. They are taking a step in the right direction with server transfers. Who says it won't work? To sit around complaining about something that has yet to happen is a waste of effort. Just sit back and smile for once. Negativity is the downfall of society. Living would be much more delightful if people just lightened up.
    So your solution is to sit and wait on a dead server for a month or two and hope for the best?

    You do realize that the only thing they would have to alter in what they are doing is allow people to transfer freely for a very limited time to consolidate their characters, you know bring the chars they left behind when they re-rolled due to the low population issues in the first place. But no we should all sit around doing fuck all and be positive and hope for the best just so we won't possibly offend Forsedar the one and true defender of SWTOR, get real.

    Before replying to some how state that my complaint is wrong ask your self this, would you be ok with leaving all your characters you have now behind to re-roll, to later be forced to pay to have them transfered, alternatively never transfer them at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forsedar View Post
    Countless posts of negativity. For once try to look at the positive sides of things. Bioware is releasing FREE server transfers to re-populate smaller servers. They're doing it for the majority, not *you*. If they catered to the individual, this game would be a mess. If they catered to the majority of the forums, this game would be a mess. They are taking a step in the right direction with server transfers. Who says it won't work? To sit around complaining about something that has yet to happen is a waste of effort. Just sit back and smile for once. Negativity is the downfall of society. Living would be much more delightful if people just lightened up.
    Ow common, do you really think there are people that willingly migrate away from a heavy populated server to a normal/small server?
    The majority do not, maybe a few people but it is in 99% of the times the other way around.

    On my server, if you look in fleet ppl are not talking about migrating away once transfers are there, they like it here because it is one of the 2/3 euro servers that are healthy.
    If you go to the leveling areas people are talking about it that once transfers are here the can get their other chars to tRE.
    People dont want servers with 10ppl in fleet on prime time (between 18:00/24:00), they want busy servers.

    Ow, and you can play the anecdotal evidence is anecdotal but is the reality.
    Not mine (my server is busy), not yours (at least that is what i can make of your posts) but for a lot of others it is, whether you like it (you don't, all i get from you and your posts is that SWTOR/Bioware is flawless) or not.

    The should make some kind of new/designated migration servers and make that the targets of transfers, first come first serve with regards to names and eventueally shut the ghost towns down.

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