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Last edited by Pud'n; 2012-04-30 at 07:53 PM.
To me, Sylvanas represents defiance against condescending, arrogant people. During the third war (Warcraft 3), the Alliance were incredibly arrogant and acted with bigotry against the Blood Elves. They also demanded the citizens of Lordaeron give up their claim to their own kingdom to the Alliance after having liberated it from Arthas. Unacceptable. One person took up the mantle of leadership and organized the fallen Lordaeron citizens into a united fighting force to drive off the Scourge and defend their territory from the kingdoms of the Alliance who thought themselves entitled to land that wasn't theirs. She's also full of emotion, never being ashamed of feeling rage and vengeance toward Arthas for the atrocities he committed against her and her people (both the Forsaken and the Blood Elves).
She died defending Silvermoon, she sent troops to help the Blood Elves reclaim their land from the Scourge, she has been the victim of Alliance bigotry simply for being undead, she has been the victim of betrayal time and again, and does what must be done to fight back tooth and claw against those who consider them superior and entitled to their lands. Her cause is one I'm happy to fight alongside.
I relate to her bitterness and position. Growing up, there were plenty of people (usually in the church) that looked down on me for one reason or another and perhaps this is just me, but people acting like that they're inherently better than me really brings my blood to a boil. Those with haughty attitudes, supposing themselves "holier than thou," and looking down on you only makes you want to fight back, to knock them off their high horse, and show them that you're a force to be reckoned with and respected. That's how I see Sylvanas Windrunner.
Additionally, contrary to her outer shell, she is not without sympathy. In a quest in Silverpine, she explains why she fights against the Alliance: to protect the rights of the undead citizens of Lordaeron and how she will never allow the Alliance to steamroll over them. You can see her lament the tragedies that have befallen her by returning an heirloom amulet from the Ghostlands. She assures the orphans that visit her during Children's week that despite having verbal fights with Garrosh, she isn't going to abandon the Horde - that the child has nothing to worry about. There's an admirable, soft side to Sylvanas; it's just hidden under an outer shell of tragic bitterness.
I liked her character back then because she had a great story. She was a victim that triumphed the best way she could have. Her cause was a just one: to make sure the Forsaken had a place to call home on Azeroth. That home should be Lodaeron, because it belonged to them in life. Everyone wanted them eliminated, despite them being victims, and she wasn't having it. She was fierce and fearless.
As for the fanboy art, that only got stupid when Blizzard changed her model from the "unsexy" NE to the BE model. I don't think the fanboy art wouldn't have gotten as ridiculous as it did if she remained the NE. Even still, don't forget most of those artists have effed up views about women, life and relationships in general. Not as much of a generalization as you would think.
Why would anyone want to kill off one of the most interesting character's in the game to begin with?
Who cares if she does evil things. She makes the story interesting.
I don't get this seemingly widespread desire some people have to make the game more boring by killing off all of the characters who are morally gray.
It would have been better for there to be this silent understanding that the Forsaken are a doomed race. Keeping the population going by her current means....isn't likable. You don't like a race, you won't play it.
Well personally... I don't think she has ever really fit as leader of the forsaken... yes she was wronged by Arthas, yes someone needed to take control of the undead left behind... but is she the right fit... meh.
Blizzard kind of strengthened her position as a leader of the horde when they introduced the bloodelves. That whole quest line made a lot more sense than having her as a leader did previously.
I'm not sure I'm a huge fan of the Vrykul situation we find ourselves in. This whole she can't die bit... is getting old. The killing her and resurrecting her is pointless really. How about you just not kill her? Or how about the vyrkul got destroyed with arthas... or still under Bolvar's control.
All that aside... I think she has one of the most attractive in game models (I know its a BE) (and no I don't get off to cartoons) of any model, her and Ysera, and Alexstraza
THEY LIKE HER BECAUSE SHE HAS TITS.
there, i said it.
---------- Post added 2012-05-01 at 12:24 AM ----------
Here's the quest: http://www.wowhead.com/quest=27097
"You are to take Agatha with you to Fenris Isle and slaughter all humans. She will raise the fallen as Forsaken, bolstering our forces in the process."
It's also strange that every now and again that as soon as you raise them they say pro-Forsaken things right away, while the vast majority lament over what you've done to them.
But I also defend her as a character. I may not like her, but I like her story and character.
Last edited by Uennie; 2012-05-01 at 06:51 AM.
Shes hot.... nuff' said
Honestly, I don't remember anyone caring too much about Sylvanas being under attack when Thrall was still around - Horde players would tend to protect him and not really worry about any of the other faction leaders, except on those occasions when they knew Alliance raids were forming for the achievement. Now that Thrall's out of the picture, Sylvanas is really the only suitable substitute, since Vol'jin isn't required for the achievement, and Baine and Lor'themar may as well be cardboard cut-outs.
Cause out of all the horde leaders, she's the only good one left lore wise. and out of all female racial leaders is only one worth a damn anymore after Tyrande got Richard Knaaked.