If Inquisition

[Velshin]

Hey everyone, just wanna say if inquisition also increase spell power per each holy power (1 holy power = 10% spell power, 2 holy power = 20% spell power, 3 holy power = 30% spell power) do you think paladin will be too OP and this change is so unacceptable?

Discuss please thanks for reading.

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Hey everyone, just wanna say if inquisition also increase spell power per each holy power (1 holy power = 10% spell power, 2 holy power = 20% spell power, 3 holy power = 30% spell power) do you think paladin will be too OP and this change is so unacceptable?

Discuss please thanks for reading.

Would be a nerf

[Velshin]

Would be a nerf

How is it a nerf can you explain please? I didn't mean change the current inquisition to increase spell power instead of holy damage I meant additional affect to the current one not a replace.

[Gamdwelf]

well ret paladins don't use spell power so giving them a move that increases their spell power doesn't help them, where increasing their holy damage does

[Malkhor]

well ret paladins don't use spell power so giving them a move that increases their spell power doesn't help them, where increasing their holy damage does

Could not be more wrong. Here is a ret passive : Increases your spell power by an amount equal to 30% of your attack power and increases your chance to hit with spells by 8%.

And here is the scaling in a ability.


Fills the Paladin with holy power, causing single-target attacks to Censure the target, which deals ((0.01 * holy spell power.0270 * AP) * 5 * 100 / 100) additional Holy damage over 15 sec. Censure can stack up to 5 times. Once stacked to 5 times, each of the Paladin's attacks also deals 15% weapon damage as additional Holy damage. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time. Lasts 30 min.

Unleashing this Seal's energy will deal (1 + 0.223 * holy spell power.142 * AP) Holy damage to an enemy, increased by 20% for each application of Censure on the target.

OT: might not become overpowered, but it would bump up the dps at least. So, not sure.

[Velshin]

well ret paladins don't use spell power so giving them a move that increases their spell power doesn't help them, where increasing their holy damage does

It does help lot in fact few examples will be for self heals and exorcism spell.

[Pool of the Dead]

well ret paladins don't use spell power so giving them a move that increases their spell power doesn't help them, where increasing their holy damage does

Hammer of Wrath scales exclusively off Spell power.

At least know what you are talking about, if you are going to act like you know what you are talking about.

[friggo]

well ret paladins don't use spell power so giving them a move that increases their spell power doesn't help them, where increasing their holy damage does

We use spell power alot actually. Exorcism, Holy Wrath, Consecration, Seals, Hammer of wrath? all scale with spellpower gained from Sheat of light.

[Gamdwelf]

Exo scales only from SP or AP whichever is higher, and I didn't mean that ret paladin did not use spell power at all, but that its not something they really try to have a lot of, so having something change from increasing holy damage to SP would fail hard.

[Velshin]

Exo scales only from SP or AP whichever is higher, and I didn't mean that ret paladin did not use spell power at all, but that its not something they really try to have a lot of, so having something change from increasing holy damage to SP would fail hard.

did you even read my topic very well mate? I never said changing from increase holy damage to SP please reread my first post again.

[friggo]

But he never said anything about changing it from holy damage to spell power.

Hey everyone, just wanna say if inquisition also increase spell power per each holy power (1 holy power = 10% spell power, 2 holy power = 20% spell power, 3 holy power = 30% spell power) do you think paladin will be too OP and this change is so unacceptable?

Discuss please thanks for reading.

please note the bolded part.

however it would be op from a healing perspective (I belive) for all 3 specs to gain 30% additional spellpower.

[Gamdwelf]

did you even read my topic very well mate? I never said changing from increase holy damage to SP please reread my first post again.

Whats the point then, rets don't need a pointless buff, all it would do would over buff them and make holy paladins OP at healing.

[Velshin]

Whats the point then, rets don't need a pointless buff, all it would do would over buff them and make holy paladins OP at healing.

Exactly that was the point of the topic it was a question if this stuff will make paladin overall as a class too OP and unacceptable or it will be fine. Please next time before giving wrong or miss information about the class make sure to read the topic carefully before replying just a friendly advice.

[Gamdwelf]

What if mages did 1million damage to everything in a hundred yard radius every time they ice blocked, would that be too OP?

[Velshin]

What if mages did 1million damage to everything in a hundred yard radius every time they ice blocked, would that be too OP?

Are you really comparing mages to paladins? really? please for the last time if you have no idea about the paladin class don't bother to reply really.

[Gamdwelf]

Ok, lets think this through, if a class is fine damage wise right now, then you buff it, is it OP, I'm surprised you couldn't come to the answer on your own. Sorry I skipped a word when I originally read your post.

[Velshin]

Ok, lets think this through, if a class is fine damage wise right now, then you buff it, is it OP, I'm surprised you couldn't come to the answer on your own. Sorry I skipped a word when I originally read your post.

I will say it one more time if you have no idea about retri spec dmg don't reply and don't spread miss information or pretend to know the class very well. Yes the dmg of retri spec is fine when it comes to burst and powerful IF we get good RNG from divine purpose procs and art of war procs. Without these procs our dmg is weak compare to other melee classes because RNG luck is like one of the major factor for our dmg.

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however it would be op from a healing perspective (I belive) for all 3 specs to gain 30% additional spellpower.

hmm yeah I agree however, there might be a solution for this to make inquistion only for retri spec and give it a penalty that whenever we use inquistion it will also increase all healing spells mana cost for like 10% or 20% something like that.

[Gamdwelf]

So then how does increasing SP without a subsequent offset to that buff reduce RNG?

[Velshin]

So then how does increasing SP without a subsequent offset to that buff reduce RNG?

Did I say anything about reducing RNG? I said increasing the dmg like that might be one of the solution make the Ret dmg fine without relaying on luck and RNG.

[Gamdwelf]

Well you said the problem was that there was too much RNG, so then your suggested solution was that you get an unnecessary buff that doesn't really make a lot of sense, and doesn't even solve the RNG problem. Still don't understand.