Iran is not a threat.

[UncleSilas]

The biggest threat to that region is the nuclear proliferation that would escalate if Iran was allowed to obtain nuclear weapons. Arab states in the region are more afraid of Iran than they are of Israel.

No they're not. Israel has started wars with pretty much all of their neighbors, why would they be more fearful of Iran?

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How exactly? Just because they have a nuke, doesn't mean they can hit us with it. They don't have a delivery system capable of reaching us, and probably won't for 5 - 10 years, if not more.

Oh and yes, Iran is a threat. They may not invade another country, but they absolutely fund fanatical terrorist organizations.

You mean like how the U.S. funds operatives to bomb nuclear scientists. Ops! Are we not meant to mention that?

[Merkava]

If anything, Iran is the last person that would want anything to happen, they know they're first in the firing line if anything happens.

You're half right. Iran "Iran is the last person that would want anything to happen" until they realize their goal of obtaining nuclear weapons.

[Hurax]

I doubt that many people who advocate sanctions and war seriously think that Iran is a threat to either Israel, the USA or European countries. Not in its current state, and not if it would develop nuclear arms. The arguments are solid, and on the other side you only hear scare tactics. Thy don't see Iran as a threat, but as a weak target, and confrontation as a useful diversion from other causes. Ahmadineshad, like Obama and Netanjahu uses agressive rethoric to get support for elections, and divert from his failure in internal and economic politics. But the threat comes from the military strong alliance, not from a weak isolated country.

[Merkava]

No they're not. Israel has started wars with pretty much all of their neighbors, why would they be more fearful of Iran?

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...731877,00.html
http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/in...ename=Page+One

[Paraclef]

You mean before it even existed....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

I mean : Go back to school. This " we are the victims " is OUTDATED....

[UncleSilas]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

I mean : Go back to school. This " we are the victims " is OUTDATED....

That's not 1900. And the Zionist movement dates even further back than the 20th century.

[obdigore]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

I mean : Go back to school. This " we are the victims " is OUTDATED....

You still wrote 1900, whereas this letter was written in 1917, unless you are trying to state that England owning territory in that area is/was the biggest problem?

[Huntermyth]

i don't care if Iran is stronger or dangerous or US has every right to remove unwanted governments from any country blah blah etc. etc.

i just remember this sentence whenever people appear here with informations based on news in their countries:

''bombing for peace is like f*cking for virginity''

have a good day all.

[Machomaije]

In reality none of these countries are threats. The truth is that USA is the biggest threat on earth. They run the country on war, and everybody knows it, still nobody do anything about it.

USA is making terrorists, so they can go to warr with countries and steal their resources (oil etc).

And yea, Bil Laden wasnt, and have NEVER been the most dangerous person. The most dangerous person in the world is the president of USA, why can they kill and do what they want?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl2JQ...ure=plpp_video

[obdigore]

In reality none of these countries are threats. The truth is that USA is the biggest threat on earth. They run the country on war, and everybody knows it, still nobody do anything about it.

USA is making terrorists, so they can go to warr with countries and steal their resources (oil etc).

Where has the US stolen resources? Please educate me in this. I'd love to see which companies got the oil contracts in Iraq?

[muto]

There will never be peace in the middle east as long as there are Islamic, and Jewish people together in that region; they hate each other. Also if the United State's and it's allies are trying to win a war they can't win there will never be peace there. The only way to win a war is to sway the natives to agree with your cause, and 80% of them hate the United States, and it's way of governing, and they don't want that style of governing implemented in their countries. Another way to win a war is to kill of the natives and take the land, but the U.S. doesn't want to do that, they just want to tell those middle eastern countries how to run their government, and country. If they wanted their land they would just blow the place up, and come back in 5 years.

If you got confused; there's two types of wars, a mind war (sway the natives to agree with you), and a resources war (kill the natives, and take their land).

The United States is trying to win a mind war, which is near impossible to win unless there's a genocide or something major where the leaders are killing their own people, and the people are seeking outside help from other nations, ie. Hitler killing the Jewish people in WW2.

[ciggy]

I agree that Iran is not a threat, but we have to remember than a Nuke is very very strong tactical tool. Iran has an incentive (like many other countries) to get a nuke for protective reasons, not for attack. The issue is not Iran getting a nuke, but the possible arms race which might happen in the region if it gets one. The USSR and USA were smart enough to not blow up the planet. Who knows if Iran, Pakistan, India, Israel and Saudi Arabia(which will probably want a nuke if Iran gets one) together with stupid radicals running around the region are smart enough to solve the same issues without blowing each other up.

Rather than an attack plan, the US should get a "lets get the hell out of here" plan and focus on its space program, just in case those bunch of tards start playing with nukes.

I agree with you so much it isn't funny. One of the best posts on this sort of topic in awhile. Arms race Iran will spark with this is a much MUCH bigger deal than whether or not they actually use it. If they use it, they are done, period. And they know it. I think they are protecting themselves, that's the mindset they must have. Everyone else is gonna feel that same need.

I hear that moon titan might be a decent enough place to live, if we can shuttle stuff to it and get our "moon base" set up. I think another planet/moon will be colonized to some extent in some of your lifetimes, but not mine (i'm pushing 40)

[Huntermyth]

Where has the US stolen resources? Please educate me in this. I'd love to see which companies got the oil contracts in Iraq?

omg leave this to me please!

a quick answer should be in a question shape my dear: what is/was the main occupation of father Bush and who was his major partner in that said ''job'' ? search this first and you will find more answers than you can handle.

[Paraclef]

That's not 1900. And the Zionist movement dates even further back than the 20th century.

19th you mean...... or L2R

You still wrote 1900, whereas this letter was written in 1917, unless you are trying to state that England owning territory in that area is/was the biggest problem?

L2R....idiot. Sionnist are killing arabs since early 1900's.

[obdigore]

19th you mean...... or L2R

L2R....idiot. Sionnist are killing arabs since early 1900's.

1st, the '20th Century' started 1901, and despite calling me an idiot you still have not proven that Jewish-Israel was a problem until it was created after WW2.

[Orodoth]

In reality none of these countries are threats. The truth is that USA is the biggest threat on earth. They run the country on war, and everybody knows it, still nobody do anything about it.

USA is making terrorists, so they can go to warr with countries and steal their resources (oil etc).

And yea, Bil Laden wasnt, and have NEVER been the most dangerous person. The most dangerous person in the world is the president of USA, why can they kill and do what they want?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl2JQ...ure=plpp_video

not entirely sure how we can run a country on war, considering the debt alone has set us back by years....

furthermore, the United States of America as a whole, is not the greatest threat in the world. Our piss poor governmental system on the other hand, is open season for your insults. The average citizen is made powerless by the government, which is true for pretty much all governments, regimes, dictatorships, etc, etc.

Also, how are "we" to "steal" the oil (for example)? I don't recall at any time in the last 10 years hearing about us pumping out Iraqi oil and using it in the USA.. if anything, that would have driven down our insane gasoline prices by now. Please, take your tin foil hat off, and understand that not every American has glazed over, blood thirsty eyes. A lot of us simply want to live happy, productive, and peaceful lives.

[obdigore]

omg leave this to me please!

a quick answer should be in a question shape my dear: what is/was the main occupation of father Bush and who was his major partner in that said ''job'' ? search this first and you will find more answers than you can handle.

Tell me who received the oil contracts in Iraq, instead of hand waving and telling me to 'look it up for myself.'

[Army Dreamer]

Yes. Iran is a threat.

[SkyBlueAri]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

I mean : Go back to school. This " we are the victims " is OUTDATED....

You should stop before you make a fool of yourself.

There will never be peace in the middle east as long as there are Islamic, and Jewish people together in that region; they hate each other.

Israel and Iran are both threats. If the United States sided with Iran instead of Israel then we would think Israel is an extreme threat with nuclear weapons.

You forgot Christian in that sentence. Christians have (and had) a relatively large say in the region.

OP Iran have never been a threat. The only threat with Iran is that they want to attain nulcear power. Now Im not saying there is a fine line between nuclear power and nuclear arms, but any country with nuclear abilities that are in any way hostile to the unity of the major powers (includes Israel since America) should have an eye kept on them.

In saying that though Iran (and most of the countries in the region) lack the technology to do anything with their said ability to produce weapons. Always have.

[Thunderaan]

Israel is the biggest threat to that region. Iran and Israel have pretty shitty human rights track records as well.

You don't know what you're talking about. Israel has a very good human rights record compared to Iran and all those backward third world dictatorships. They don't mistreat their women or randomly torture their citizens (btw, 20% of them are Arabs - they have equal rights too).