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  1. #361
    Fluffy Kitten Dacien's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by darenyon View Post
    what would the "real" concerns be? warm weather in december causing a collapse of the coat industry?
    No, the coat industry would have to adapt. That's their concern, not yours or mine.


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    Don't solar panels cause global cooling because heat energy is converted into electricity which then converted into other energies. So aren't solar panels responsible for birds freezing to death?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    No, I write off the issue for completely different reasons. Practical reasons.
    i think if less people wrote off the issue for "practical reasons", we might see more "practical solutions."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexdominus View Post
    it's half true. The globe "is" warming but there's not enough evidence to say if it's all mankind's doing or a natural cycle of the earth. Evidence shows us there has been times of warming and cooling throughout earth's history.

    IMO it's probably a combination of natural cycle and mankind.
    There's evidence that man can have caused it.
    There's zero evidence of this being a natural change.

    ... No, really.
    None of the historic changes match the current change. None of the reasons for the historic changes are relevant to this change. And none of the historic changes had the temperature increase lag behind the CO2 increase, the way we are currently seeing. Historically, the CO2 increase began 800 years after the temperatures started rising.
    If you chose rock as a weapon, in order to beat a pair of scissors, don't start whining when you get pwn'd by a piece of paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker View Post
    Don't solar panels cause global cooling because heat energy is converted into electricity which then converted into other energies. So aren't solar panels responsible for birds freezing to death?
    You don't know a lot about science, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by darenyon View Post
    i think if less people wrote off the issue for "practical reasons", we might see more "practical solutions."
    hint: he's confusing short term with practical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker View Post
    Don't solar panels cause global cooling because heat energy is converted into electricity which then converted into other energies. So aren't solar panels responsible for birds freezing to death?
    That sounds like the woman who was worried that the earth was running out of oxygen because of the space program taking some of it off the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    No, the coat industry would have to adapt. That's their concern, not yours or mine.
    what are the real concerns then?

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    Howcome those who do not believe in global warming will readily dismiss the data in favor but then use the data showing that the earth has cycles... Its litterally on the same freaking graph...

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    Quote Originally Posted by darenyon View Post
    i think if less people wrote off the issue for "practical reasons", we might see more "practical solutions."
    That sounds like feel good nonsense, a platitude.

    Quote Originally Posted by darenyon View Post
    what are the real concerns then?
    I'm not going to start apologizing for environmentalism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Led ++ View Post
    I wonder how much people are going to whine when the Global Cooling starts again.
    We won't be around after we get fried during the peak of the heat. Sorry D:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker View Post
    Don't solar panels cause global cooling because heat energy is converted into electricity which then converted into other energies. So aren't solar panels responsible for birds freezing to death?
    heat ≠ light

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    That sounds like feel good nonsense, a platitude.

    I'm not going to start apologizing for environmentalism.
    well its from "necessity is the mother of invention".

    so you dont have an answer as to what you think the real concerns of climate change are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by darenyon View Post
    well its from "necessity is the mother of invention".

    so you dont have an answer as to what you think the real concerns of climate change are?
    Okay, here's one: California might become submerged. That could happen right, rising sea levels and whatnot? That would suck for me.


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    If both ice caps completely melt the worst that will happen to California is the valley will probably flood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccsabathia View Post
    heat ≠ light
    Well actually...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cattaclysmic View Post
    Well actually...
    yeah I was going to say.

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    Not only does the Earth's climate depend mostly on the sun for it's phases, it's also constantly changing and has been for since it began.
    The thought that our paltry amount of CO2 is controlling it is just a HUGE SCAM!

    The scientific community has always been divided on it. And few of the predictions have panned out, and there's been no real warming for over 10 years.

    The liberal orthodoxy still adheres to it, but that's because the proposed "solution" of everything from carbon credits, to shutting down western economies is a way to make them rich while forcing an economic collapse and replacing the economy with communism or socialism. That's pretty much the leftist dream. So they use mob tactics to shout down anyone who disagrees and calls them "deniers".

    Great starter vid on it:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtevF4B4RtQ

    There's more and more news reports also, just search for "hide the decline" and check here too:
    http://www.globalclimatescam.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker View Post
    Don't solar panels cause global cooling because heat energy is converted into electricity which then converted into other energies. So aren't solar panels responsible for birds freezing to death?
    I imagine the only way that solar panels could do that was if they were on an area so vast it would change the albedo of the ground beneath it in a significant way...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    If both ice caps completely melt the worst that will happen to California is the valley will probably flood.
    oh well im sure we can just move that food production somewhere else.

    im on the coast so id be pretty much screwed though.

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