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    Bone Link on Yor'sahj

    Is Bone Link on Yor'sajh really the best choice? above creche? it always seems to proc at the wrong time for me.

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    "Your melee attacks have a chance to trigger a whirlwind attack dealing 9063 to 13594 physical damage to all targets within 10 yards."

    If what you're looking for is overall DPS than yes it's the best ( duh because of equip stated above )
    Single Target Yor'sajh Creche would be best.

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    So fun to cleave yellow+black rows for 60k each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veliane View Post
    So fun to cleave yellow+black rows for 60k each.
    must be 10man? wouldnt it hit the aoe cap on 25man and lower the damage?

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    For my DK on Yor'sahjh[10HC], the Normal version of BLF did 4.6% and 4.7% of my damage on the last two kills. Which is pretty good imo.

    http://worldoflogs.com/reports/niuqv...?s=1718&e=2193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Socialhealer View Post
    must be 10man? wouldnt it hit the aoe cap on 25man and lower the damage?
    It wouldn't lower the damage overall (per mob, it would), it can't do any more than the cap on either 10 or 25man. It would just always cap, which means it is doing more than it would on 10man.
    Last edited by Treelife; 2012-05-04 at 03:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treelife View Post
    It wouldn't lower the damage, it can't do any more than the cap on either 10 or 25man. It would just always cap, which means it is doing more than it would on 10man.
    i mean on 10man its like 5-6 targets and 25 is about 12?, so cause its over 10 the aoe damage is lowered, just be surprised if its 60k each mob on 25man thats like a proc of 800k damage :s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socialhealer View Post
    i mean on 10man its like 5-6 targets and 25 is about 12?, so cause its over 10 the aoe damage is lowered, just be surprised if its 60k each mob on 25man thats like a proc of 800k damage :s
    Yeah, literally just noticed I had a brain-fart and you meant per mob hit.

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    Did 5.3% of my damage with RF BLF on 25H Yorsahj this week, probably would do more if Forgotten Ones didn't die in like 2 seconds, damn debuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkiri View Post
    Is Bone Link on Yor'sajh really the best choice? above creche? it always seems to proc at the wrong time for me.
    By proc at the wrong time? It has a 27 sec ICD it procs all the time I mean on something with that short of an ICD there isn't a wrong time. Creche on the other hand could easily proc at the wrong time like when you are running out to kill an add.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Requital View Post
    By proc at the wrong time? It has a 27 sec ICD it procs all the time I mean on something with that short of an ICD there isn't a wrong time. Creche on the other hand could easily proc at the wrong time like when you are running out to kill an add.
    Well, I have 100% uptime on Yor'sahj so both trinket proc while on boss. By wrong time I mean having it go off just before, or right after an add phase.

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    I have a lot of uptime on the boss as well. H BLF gave me 6.3% (830,847)of my overall damage on our last kill. The week before 6.9% (1,156,393) overall, thus 15% nerf.

    Edit: 10m Heroic
    Last edited by Rubert; 2012-05-05 at 02:42 PM.

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    I suggest using it on spine also, gotta win those WoL metters bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socialhealer View Post
    must be 10man? wouldnt it hit the aoe cap on 25man and lower the damage?
    Whirling Maw is a stream of individual hits in an area effect, thus BLF has no cap.
    IE: 60k on every add. (If you can get tricks at the time of cleaving you can also get 80k or so extra damage from your already ridiculous cleave)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veliane View Post
    Whirling Maw is a stream of individual hits in an area effect, thus BLF has no cap.
    IE: 60k on every add. (If you can get tricks at the time of cleaving you can also get 80k or so extra damage from your already ridiculous cleave)
    An "AoE cap" that is active on most AoE spells causes the AoE spell to deal damage regularly until the spell affects more than ten mobs. This cap is dynamic depending on the situation: The cap is dependent on how much damage the spell would deal to an individual mob. Once the spell is applied to more than ten mobs, the damage you deal to an individual mob multiplied by ten, divided by the amount of mobs, is the amount you will apply to each mob. If there are ten or less mobs, then it deals damage normally. The damage cap is based off of non-critical hits and non-partially resisted spells; after that, critical hits on any mob can increase the cap. Any miss on a mob of an AoE spell causes that mob to be absent from the calculations: If you have 11 mobs, but the spell is resisted on one mob, the spell will act as if only ten mobs exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mokal View Post
    I suggest using it on spine also, gotta win those WoL metters bro
    We don't log anymore, awfully :-(
    Last edited by Valkiri; 2012-05-05 at 04:33 PM.

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    However as much as it says a whirlwind attack I've never seen it do less than full damage solo vs many many mobs.
    I'm compelled to double check now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veliane View Post
    However as much as it says a whirlwind attack I've never seen it do less than full damage solo vs many many mobs.
    I'm compelled to double check now.
    It does have a cap, I pulled all of Stratholme and it hit the same as it did on about 15 mobs. Just hit them all for a lot less per mob. (350-380k total I believe, for my N-BLF)

    On a side note, it took me three resets to try it... Auto attacked by accident and the trinket procced. >.>
    Last edited by Treelife; 2012-05-05 at 08:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkiri View Post
    Well, I have 100% uptime on Yor'sahj so both trinket proc while on boss. By wrong time I mean having it go off just before, or right after an add phase.
    So I'm utterly confused by your question then, You are sitting on the boss 100% and you want to know if you can parse higher with Creche or BLF? Blf if you have back to back black phases. If you don't get a lot of add phases or have other AE that kills the adds quickly then BLF is going to waste.

    However BLF is going to always be going to proc during add phases because it's not likely you are burning all the adds down before it can proc at least once.
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    It's just pretty much a given to use BLF on this fight, I have H Creche but use RF BLF for it. The proc is still as I said 5% of my damage in 25mH, would be way more if we didn't have multiple legendary mages and 2 arms warriors etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Requital View Post
    However BLF is going to always be going to proc during add phases because it's not likely you are burning all the adds down before it can proc at least once.
    Not likely doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I haven't tried adds on 25man if they are any different, but on 10m they are gone within seconds.

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