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    mankirk's wife as a raid boss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crableg View Post
    Same, I had high hopes of fighting alongside that red skinned beast.
    Broxigar was not red - at all. He wasn't a fel orc. He was however refered to as Broxigar the Red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crableg View Post
    Im pretty sure they're making a re-appearance in MoP somewhere
    Mind Linking a Source? I haven't heard anything that even pertains to that regard. I would like to know if this is true.
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    Arthas... make it happen! But take him out of time all Chrono Trigger like so he can be in the present!
    It needs to be 20% cooler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnarles Malarkey View Post
    Turalyon will return and be rewritten as a neutral faction leader, causing Lothar to roll over in his grave.
    Honestly I think Lothar is spinning in his grave so fast right now that he caused the Cataclysm himself. Seriously though if Turalyon comes back as anything other than an Alliance-exclusive ass kicker I'll be disappoint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dokhidamo View Post
    Breaking from the idea of reviving dead characters. Calia Menethil.

    I want her found to be undead, and when Sylvanas is inevitably killed, she takes over the Forsaken.
    Actually, I think it would be a more interesting plot if she was actually alive and took power in the Undercity, just think of how the politics would go out of control in Forsaken society, the problems that ensue would be very interesting potential story arcs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gnarles Malarkey View Post
    Turalyon will return and be rewritten as a neutral faction leader, causing Lothar to roll over in his grave.
    I am afraid this will happen, and I will probably stop looking at Warcraft lore altogether if that happens.

    The guy hates the Orcs, especially after everything they did to his Wife's homeland and Doomhammer's deception into killing Lothar, when they came to negotiate peace. Him even considering allying with the orcs would just throw all sense of immersion out the window.

    He is one of the last Alliance heroes of the old wars, if he goes neutral then blizzard officially declares the Alliance nothing but punching bags for the Horde (and that is even a loose term, seeing as they already do this daily..)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesker View Post
    I've been thinking about this too but every racial leader need to be able to fight and fight well (better than the player characters can at least). Calia was just some random royal girl like Greymane's daughter.
    But it's also been about 10 years sense we last saw a living Menethil, longer since we last heard from Calia. A lot can happen in that time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lothaeryn View Post
    Actually, I would think it would be a more interesting plot if she was actually alive and took power in the Undercity, just think of how the politics would go out of control in Forsaken society, the problems that ensue would be very interesting potential story arcs.
    Not to mention the shift in Alliance-Horde relationships. Remember it was Undercity that started this war (Varian felt it should belong to the humans). What happens when its rightful Queen return (living or undead)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lothaeryn View Post
    Actually, I would think it would be a more interesting plot if she was actually alive and took power in the Undercity, just think of how the politics would go out of control in Forsaken society, the problems that ensue would be very interesting potential story arcs.



    I am afraid this will happen, and I will probably stop looking at Warcraft lore altogether if that happens.

    The guy hates the Orcs, especially after everything they did to his Wife's homeland and Doomhammer's deception into killing Lothar, when they came to negotiate peace. Him even considering allying with the orcs would just throw all sense of immersion out the window.

    He is one of the last Alliance heroes of the old wars, if he goes neutral then blizzard officially declares the Alliance nothing but punching bags for the Horde (and that is even a loose term, seeing as they already do this daily..)
    Quick thing, the so-called "Doomhammer's deception" was in wc2, it was retconned into Doomhammer and Lothar having a honorable 1vs1 duel in the "Tides of Darkness" book. Also Turalyon isn't *that* fanatic either, the book made him much more... mellow.

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    Turalyon as a Horde raid boss so we can loot his shinies and everyone feels better now that his story is resolved.
    It needs to be 20% cooler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwaarg View Post
    Deathwing...I will settle for Med'an though.
    No No No No No. A million times no! I hope we never hear another word about Med'an. I honestly feel he is the worst character created for the Warcraft universe.
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    Different people. I just yell at chaud a lot until his posts look like mine.

    Then he yells at me until my posts look like his.

    There's a lot of screaming, front page news are basically just a bad porno.

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    I would like Tirion to be killed then brought back to bring pallys to the undead.. I want me some zombie justice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Othniel View Post
    No No No No No. A million times no! I hope we never hear another word about Med'an. I honestly feel he is the worst character created for the Warcraft universe.
    Oh god, seriously. I honestly keep hoping Blizzard noticed he's almost universally reviled by those who actually know who he is and decided to retcon the entire latter half of the WoW comic. He is the worst Warcraft character ever created, Rhonin and the rest of Knaak's plethora of fail don't even hold a candle to him.
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    Kel'thuzad. Yes, it'd be cliché seeing that it would be his fourth time returning from the dead, but I absolutely adore his Warcraft 3 incarnation, and I don't think they've put him to good use in WoW at all yet. In WoW he was just a filthy servant, in Warcraft 3 he was Arthas' fucking babysitter, and an epic babysitter at that one. He was a mastermind, and I'd like for him to return as the mastermind he was and not a half-assed regular villain who serves under a higher power. That and we never actually destroyed his phylactery for good.

    Gul'dan would be on second place. Not in his physical form though, just some kind of ghost Gul'dan, literally reviving him would be kind of odd...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lothaeryn View Post
    Mind Linking a Source? I haven't heard anything that even pertains to that regard. I would like to know if this is true.
    One of those tips at the loading screens in Beta says something along the lines of: ''Nobody has seen Alleria and Turalyon for years'', hinting at a possible appearance in MoP. That's all we know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesker View Post
    Oh god, seriously. I honestly keep hoping Blizzard noticed he's almost universally reviled by those who actually know who he is and decided to retcon the entire latter half of the WoW comic. He is the worst Warcraft character ever created, Rhonin and the rest of Knaak's plethora of fail don't even hold a candle to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    Quick thing, the so-called "Doomhammer's deception" was in wc2, it was retconned into Doomhammer and Lothar having a honorable 1vs1 duel in the "Tides of Darkness" book. Also Turalyon isn't *that* fanatic either, the book made him much more... mellow.
    Which is one of the things that sets me off of Warcraft Lore, every time there is a stark black and white event in the game's history, they deliberately retcon it for one reason or another in order to justify one faction's actions, usually in the Horde's favor.

    And dont give me the "It's their story" shit either, lore has to have continuity if you want it to actually be even somewhat good. Retconing every little detail because you changed your mind just makes for bad storytelling and writing.

    If they really do make Turalyon "mellow" and dispassionate to justify his neutrality after everything hes been through, then I'll be done with this series, because its just getting fucking ridiculous at this point how far they are willing to go to make the Horde the Mary sue faction and the Alliance the guys they keep so the Horde can look better in comparison.
    And should he be a prophet of It's coming, he shall be cast out by his kin and his peers, for they cannot comprehend and fear the end of the corrupt empire. - Unknown, 3/1/2012
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwaarg View Post
    Haters gonna hate
    Yup and if you mention Med'an in a positive light on these forums you'll probably find that they hate pretty frequently and with great enthusiasm too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lothaeryn View Post
    Which is one of the things that sets me off of Warcraft Lore, every time there is a stark black and white event in the game's history, they deliberately retcon it for one reason or another in order to justify one faction's actions, usually in the Horde's favor.

    And dont give me the "It's their story" shit either, lore has to have continuity if you want it to actually be even somewhat good. Retconing every little detail because you changed your mind just makes for bad storytelling and writing.

    If they really do make Turalyon "mellow" and dispassionate to justify his neutrality after everything hes been through, then I'll be done with this series, because its just getting fucking ridiculous at this point how far they are willing to go to make the Horde the Mary sue faction and the Alliance the guys they keep so the Horde can look better in comparison.
    .... Okay.

    I uhm uhhh errm... I'll just not say anything other than I disagree. Oh and wc2 is from what '96 back when "Alliance = Good. Horde = Evil" which is a terribly dull and black and white way to have your setting. Setting things straight and retconning a bit isn't bad - everyone does it.

    Oh and the lore HAS continuity, they just decided to start all over (more or less) with Warcraft 3, because prior to that - Warcraft didn't really have any lore other than "This is Azeroth with standard fantasy good races - oh noes orcs are attacking them - they are evil - the end".

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    When it comes to dead characters I will mostly say "Let them be". The only case of a character coming back to life that I want to see is possibly Illidan, and that is because I really didn't like him getting killed at the end of TBC and there was talk at that time that he wouldn't get killed but escape as he has done so many times before. When it comes to Broxigar, yes he was cool, I think he has an epic story and I was really disappointed when he didn't turn up in the Well of Eternety dungeon, but, the only way I can see him coming back is if someone goes back in time and saves him before Sargeras kills him and the portal closes.
    Other dead characters should stay dead and only reoccur in Caverns of Time dungeons/raids.

    Missing characters (like Turalyon, Alleria and many many more) is welcome back to the fold and I don't really care if they are neutral or faction specific as long as there is a story that explains why they choose a certain side.

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