Is there any way I can improve my DPS?

[Noxiye]

Hello. This is my armory.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...s/Zaeth/simple

My question is; is there any way I can improve my gear to reach higher DPS? - not including getting epic gems or changing to heroic pieces. I get Dark Intent, for measuring haste purposes.
I've got the Liquid Smoke gloves (403), I've got 397 healing shoulders (T13), 384 T13 shadow helmet, for viable options to play around with.

I'd post a log of my DPS, but I don't have one available right now, so I'll have to start with the gear.

[lwalker8]

Not sure if you know these logs are here or not but here's an Ultraxion H kill from a couple weeks back: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/x...?s=3535&e=3826

Based on that and your gear, I'd say no. Probably not anything more you can do. Except get some epic gems, of course :P

[Noxiye]

How'd you find that? I knew there were logs, but I didn't know how I'd go about finding them.

I was thinking because I'm underperforming on some fights, I think. Or maybe the gear just makes that much of a difference. I see guildies ranking on WoL occasionally, but I've never done it myself (in T13).

[lwalker8]

wow-heroes.com

You will have a real hard time ranking on WoL without the following:
-Legendary or Rathrak Heroic
-A 404+ ilvl
-Cunning of the Cruel
-All legendary gems
-All spell damage buffs

---------- Post added 2012-05-09 at 01:31 PM ----------

http://raidbots.com/epeenbot/eu/sylvanas/zaeth/

That might give you a better idea of where you are compared to other priests.

[zwalker19]

Hi there,

I was looking at your gear and noticed you roughly have the same gear i do. I was wondering if you could give me some advice, my ultrax dps was only 34.5k, quite a bit lower than yours. I know you had DI and i didnt, but i dont think it would make up the difference. If anyone could get a chance to look at my original post and offer some advice, i would be grateful.

wowhead.com/forums&topic=203399&p=3174743

Thanks

[Tehterokkar]

wow-heroes.com

You will have a real hard time ranking on WoL without the following:
-Legendary or Rathrak Heroic
-A 404+ ilvl
-Cunning of the Cruel
-All legendary gems
-All spell damage buffs

---------- Post added 2012-05-09 at 01:31 PM ----------

http://raidbots.com/epeenbot/eu/sylvanas/zaeth/

That might give you a better idea of where you are compared to other priests.

Uhh.. What?

They are epic gems, last time I checked.

OT: If you want to do higher DPS, you need to play 25m preferably(all buffs present) and have Legendary staff.

[Melancolie]

Hi there,

I was looking at your gear and noticed you roughly have the same gear i do. I was wondering if you could give me some advice, my ultrax dps was only 34.5k, quite a bit lower than yours. I know you had DI and i didnt, but i dont think it would make up the difference. If anyone could get a chance to look at my original post and offer some advice, i would be grateful.

wowhead.com/forums&topic=203399&p=3174743

Thanks

Your stats are wrong. You have too much hit and too much haste.

You should go for 17.00 hit on the spot and 2589 haste rating then mastery.

You should use this link when getting new items: http://wowreforge.com/US/Firetree/Jmerkagew
The caps should be:
Cap #1 Hit At Least 1742 over cap weight 0
Cap #2 Haste At Least 2589 over cap weight 0

Then press Optimize and it will tell you what items to reforge.

My rotation: Pop archangel at 5 stacks of evangelism then do MS / MB rotation, then regular rotation. Using Mind blast on 3 shadow orbs or if buff drops off. Popping shadowfiend and arch angel whenever up. Using SW: D at 25%.

By "Pop archangel at 5 stacks of evangelism then do MS / MB rotation" i hope you mean "Pop archangel at 5 stacks of evangelism AND shadowfiend then do MS / MB rotation".

Dont wait for 3 orbs to do mind blast, pop it on CD unless you need to renew a dot, it's way too big a nuke to save it for orbs, just press it.

Also dont use the SF/DA rotation unless you have 20 secs of pure nuking (rotation + dots renewing), so use it right after an hour of twilight, or if there's 20 secs to the next one.

[Noxiye]

Hey, I've been a little inactive in this thread as I went to Germany for the weekend. Thanks for the replies; I'm going to try to reply as best I can.

First of all, I've never seen Cunning of the Cruel drop. Not once. No LFR, no normal, no heroic.
Working on Dragonwrath, but I'm not sure if I'll get it before MoP even though we do full FL HC clears weekly (recently started and killed Rag HC last week, so full clears from this week on. :P).
I put epic gems in the heroic pieces I get, as I figure that it'll mostly be a waste in 397 items or lower. I know it's wrong, but I'm not overly wealthy.
Most of the time we do have all buffs. Occasionally we miss buffs like 5% crit on target or 3% damage, but in the majority of our raids we have everything, including DI and even Focus Magic.

For zwalker19, aside from what Melancolie said, the only hard part about Shadow DPS is the T13 4p rotation. What it means is that you should always use Archangel and Shadowfiend together in this manner: Mind Spike, Mind Spike, Mind Flay (until 5 stacks of Evangelism), pop Archangel, Mind Spike again, pop Shadowfiend, Mind Flay until your Shadowfiend procs 3 Shadow Orbs for you, use Mind Blast, Mind Spike until ~1 sec left of Mind Blast CD, Mind Flay until Mind Blast is off CD (and you have 3 Shadow Orbs), and then Mind Blast. If you do it right, you should be able to get out three critical and empowered Mind Blasts this way.
This sequence is for openers. If you're in the middle of a fight, pop Archangel before using Mind Spike, skip the first Mind Flaying, and do the rest as above.

[ThrashMetalFtw]

Cap #2 Haste At Least 2589 over cap weight 0

BAD advice, don't listen to this. Haste per point is still extremely close to Mastery even with the 4set. Not to mention that going 3.2k Haste is better than Mastery on every fight in DS except for Ultraxion and Hagara, for Spine it depends if you want Tendon burst or good Amalg dmg.

[Melancolie]

BAD advice, don't listen to this. Haste per point is still extremely close to Mastery even with the 4set. Not to mention that going 3.2k Haste is better than Mastery on every fight in DS except for Ultraxion and Hagara, for Spine it depends if you want Tendon burst or good Amalg dmg.

I guess it depends more on playstyle and roles in the raid than actual bad advice. I found my dps going up by doing this, ergo this is the advice i will give to others.

Instead of simply calling bad advice i suggest you counter with something better. He is asking for advice, and i am much, much, much higher than him on the dps front from the logs i have seen. I might just be a better player, but hey neither of us knows that. If 2-3 people give different suggestions, he can try out whatever works best for him, since you dont know what he usually does in raids, you have NO idea wether a mastery or haste build will yield better results for him.

So no, my advice is not bad.

[Dust45]

I was under the impression that 2250ish was good as it gave you 2 extra DP and one extra Vampiric when you have max DI (which you should have most of the time from your lock).

[lwalker8]

DP ticks aren't super helpful, because most priests are recasting DP quite frequently to fill in movement gaps and take advantage of spell power procs.

---------- Post added 2012-05-16 at 02:42 PM ----------

A while back I analyzed the top parses on WoL for shadow priests on every encounter. Almost every encounter's top parses were from shadow priests hovering just above 30% raid buffed haste, with maximized mastery.