Combat log of ret dps on Patchwerk, feedback?

[Caduceus]

This ret pala apped, but really don't know much about how they work. Is this guy doing it right? Only had Kings and 20% AP buff.

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r.../2/?s=47&e=269

EDIT: Nvm, people are just trying to tell what to do, not bother answering the question. Delete thread please...

[Flandersson]

Tell him to show you a log from Ultraxion instead, since Patchwerk is long past and he would've done higher DPS if there was more ppl in the group. But thats just my personal view, current content is what counts, if you'd do 60k dps on patchwerk but only 40k on ultraxion why wouldnt be so attractive.

[TEHPALLYTANK]

Measuring dps of a ret pally on a fight where the boss is undead or demon will give skewed dps due to exorcism having 100% crit versus undead and demon, patchwerk is not a good way to analyze dps in a raid situation, LFR would give you more accurate numbers for assessing dps.

[Caduceus]

Only want to know if he is DPSing correctly, not how much DPS he does. Or isn't it possible to tell even with WOL?

[Jämeson]

If someone were to post a link to a patchwork log for an app I wouldn't even bother looking at it.

[madmessias]

There's nothing wrong with patchwerk tocheck how well someone is doing, numbers doesn't really matter, aslong as he is doing everything correctly, can't help u though since I'm on my phone.

[Requital]

This ret pala apped, but really don't know much about how they work. Is this guy doing it right? Only had Kings and 20% AP buff.

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r.../2/?s=47&e=269

EDIT: Nvm, people are just trying to tell what to do, not bother answering the question. Delete thread please...

I'm not sure why everyone is avoiding your simple question but here is food for thought.

1. Is he Hit Capped?
2. Is he Exp capped?
3. What is his Ilevel?

The reason these are needed to determine if he is dpsing properly is because the log shows TV being his top damage ability. That tells me either low Ilevel or improper rotation as Hand of Light should his number #1 damage ability.

The Art of War 22 40.7 18.3 %, 22 Procs for Exorcism he casts 21 times that means he missed 1 so that isn't terrible.
Inquisition 7 187.7 84.2 % Inquisition uptime is pretty bad, 84% is very low so this is a tell tell sign that he might not be up to par.

Without knowing his ilevel or Armory you can't get anymore technical then that about does he know how to play. He is using an AE trinket on a single target fight that means he forgot he had it on or has nothing else. There are a lot of small questions that need to be answered before you can just say yes or no.

From the log I would say he has an idea how to play but without being able to properly critique his armory I can't say for sure.

[Kheng]

I can't believe there are people that take "Patchwerk fights" literally! Don't accept him.

[Requital]

I can't believe there are people that take "Patchwerk fights" literally! Don't accept him.

You guys should all get some classes in reading comprehension, The question asked was is he dpsing properly. Does he have a proper rotaiton it doesn't matter if he is on Patchwerk, Ultra or Lich King a rotation is a rotation get it out of your heads that the log target matters or the DPS matters.

[loki504]

You guys should all get some classes in reading comprehension, The question asked was is he dpsing properly. Does he have a proper rotaiton it doesn't matter if he is on Patchwerk, Ultra or Lich King a rotation is a rotation get it out of your heads that the log target matters or the DPS matters.

true but patchwerk is undead. that will mean exo will have a 100% crit change. so exo will mess up your rotation % wise.

[Phantoms]

true but patchwerk is undead. that will mean exo will have a 100% crit change. so exo will mess up your rotation % wise.

The only thing that changes in that case would be your personal priority for Exorcism, which technically shouldn't matter anyway because no current raid bosses are Undead or Demon.

Since none of that is applicable in today's raid setting, the question to ask if he's executing his rotation (i.e. "doing it right" ...a la OP) properly was answered pretty well by Requital.

Chill out, because 100% Exo crit in a current raid isn't even applicable. The guy's rotation, on the other hand, is.

[darknessice]

Don't forget either that's he's popping his first Zealotry after his first Avenging Wrath is over.

[BDF]

I'm not sure why everyone is avoiding your simple question but here is food for thought.
The Art of War 22 40.7 18.3 %, 22 Procs for Exorcism he casts 21 times that means he missed 1 so that isn't terrible.
Inquisition 7 187.7 84.2 % Inquisition uptime is pretty bad, 84% is very low so this is a tell tell sign that he might not be up to par.

Without knowing his ilevel or Armory you can't get anymore technical then that about does he know how to play. He is using an AE trinket on a single target fight that means he forgot he had it on or has nothing else. There are a lot of small questions that need to be answered before you can just say yes or no.

From the log I would say he has an idea how to play but without being able to properly critique his armory I can't say for sure.

Also for a fight where he had heroism his Crusader Strike usage seems a really low, out of a possible of about 54 crusader strikes he used 28, and while hitting the maximum is quite often not done because you need to deal with procs the amount he used strikes me as far too low.
(assumed a 2 filler rotation over the course of the fight and a single filler rotation during heroism to arrive at the max of 54 number)

This combined with the low inquisition uptime tell me that he doesn't yet have a grasp on the subtleties of the Ret priority.

[loki504]

also for what content did he apped?

starting normal or just normal. or maybe starting heroic. or his is apped for one of the top guilds on your server?

[Treelife]

Do you guys not read the OP? He doesn't care about the DPS, he knows it's a low-level boss; he cares if he's playing properly, e.g. using his cooldowns right.

[Firegalus]

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Wyven/advanced (im assuming)

The bad:
Not using AW+Zeal together = bad
Guardian use sub-optimal
Didnt line up cooldowns with trinket procs
Hand of Light should be top damage dealer "if" he's got the rotation right
wrong meta, and some sub-optimal gems
reforging not right, valuing haste>crit

The good:
He is exp + hit capped
Gear looks "okay" and chanting looks ok

[Viglante]

patchwork himself also screws exorcism slightly as it will be at 100% crits and even the dot will be criting at 100% rate. undead/demon crit rate is unfortunately lsoe in mop tho