View Poll Results: Is Jaina's new character something you're looking forward to?

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  • Yes, she needs to put the war in Warcraft

    673 63.67%
  • No, she should stay 'neutral' as she has always been

    76 7.19%
  • She should take action, but not to the extent to hate the horde.

    308 29.14%
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  1. #281
    Quote Originally Posted by Cargath View Post
    I'm wondering what Thrall will say about this whole scenario...
    i dont think he will do anything after all he didnt do anything about garrosh killing cairne or any of the crap he has done since he became warchief, well at least blizzard already said that thrall will not return to the position of warchief

  2. #282
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    More fuel for the bonfire of glorious war.
    There’s only one true path in life – the path that leads to war. - Mauryon of Biel-tan
    He who sees his own doom can better avoid its path. He who sees the doom of others can deliver it.

  3. #283
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhozul View Post
    I don't think its a bad thing if Jania's fury is aimed at Garrosh's Horde. Her quotes imply that it is in the scenario, but I also hope that they're not merely setting Jania up to go Maiev or something later on. She's an excellent lore character and Blizzard's stance seems to be "kill off as many important people as possible" when it comes to expansions.

    I'm still a little sore about them deciding to off Illidian when he was basically an anti-Hero in Warcraft III, to the point where a good reason to kill Illidan was never given.

    ADAL: "Kill Vashj."
    ME: "Because she's threatening the balance of Zangarmarsh, right?"
    ADAL: "Yeah. Also, kill Kael'thas."
    ME: "Because he's working with demons and OH SNAP HE'S AN AGENT OF KIL'JAEDEN!"
    ADAL: "Uh huh. I suspected as much. By the way, you killed off his lieutenants and he's kind of running a slave camp, so kill Illidan please."
    ME: "Why?"
    ADAL: "Excuse me?"
    ME: "Well, he hasn't actually done anything except wriggle his finger at me after I won that race ...."
    ADAL: "He's half-demon. They're bad."
    ME: "But didn't he lock up Mag'theridon? And why did we free him and then kill him again?"
    ADAL: "Because Illidan was making Fel Orcs! And those are bad!"
    ME: "But wasn't Illidan fighting the Burning Legion, who was your common enemy?"
    ADAL: "Look, do you want to be my Hand or not?"
    ME: *grumbles*
    ADAL: "he drops legendary weapons"
    ME: "he is dead meat"

  4. #284
    Quote Originally Posted by Albert the fish View Post
    i think it's a good thing if only for one reason.
    a human hero went from neutral to alliance and that should help shut up the conspiracy theorists about horde favoritism, not that it will, but it should.
    Well, not that I am for the "conspiracy theories" you mentionned, but Jaina never was neutral to begin wiith, so those theory will go on.

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    This is all Thrall's fault. I don't know what he was thinking putting a lunatic like Garrosh in charge.

  6. #286
    Quote Originally Posted by Frontenac View Post
    Well, not that I am for the "conspiracy theories" you mentionned, but Jaina never was neutral to begin wiith, so those theory will go on.

    INgame she wasn't for mechanic reasons. But in lore she was, and Theramore was supposed to be a Neutral city.
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  7. #287
    Quote Originally Posted by Nindoriel View Post
    Actually I thought when Anduin grows up he'll get together with Jaina.
    in fact Anduin will become a neutral questgiver in MoP so he will become the new peacemonger

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanEX View Post
    INgame she wasn't for mechanic reasons. But in lore she was, and Theramore was supposed to be a Neutral city.
    No Lorewise Theramore was an Alliance city, it was never neutral.
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    Oh fecking wonderful... great.. Well done blizzard, make Jaina into a character worse then Varian who hates the horde after she tried to hard for peace.

    just... why can't they stop trying to appease the 'we need more WAR in warcraft' players.

  10. #290
    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    just... why can't they stop trying to appease the 'we need more WAR in warcraft' players.
    ...Because this expansion is about war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Oh fecking wonderful... great.. Well done blizzard, make Jaina into a character worse then Varian who hates the horde after she tried to hard for peace.

    just... why can't they stop trying to appease the 'we need more WAR in warcraft' players.
    Did you guys hear a different audio file? As far as I recall she said she hated Orcs and given what she sacrificed to achieve peace with them only to have them sack her city and its inhabitants, it is reasonable. If Garrosh had just taken controll of the city, things would have turned out quite differently, besides I doubt Jaina will hate the orcs for a long time, after she burned a few hundred Orcs soldiers to crisps, she might calm down.
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  12. #292
    Because Trassk unfortunately there are lots of players that have no idea about the lore of the game, haven't played before Wrath of the Lich King and they can only think of the PVP saying that we have to justify the PVP bringing the war in warcraft. What those players don't understand is that the term is World of Warcraft not a world where we are crafting war and have to be constantly on war. They also don't understand that War was always here either it was skirmitches between the Horde and the Alliance or against a major enemy.

  13. #293
    I don't think she's anti-horde. I think she's mostly pissed at Garrosh and the Orcs. She has tried and tried for peace and then Garrosh comes along and totally destroys Theremore, kills everyone in it and everything she's worked so hard to build.


    Karma always has the last laugh.

  14. #294
    Quote Originally Posted by ace1231337 View Post
    Spot on my friend, spot on. As 'boring' as Jaina is sitting in her tower in Theramore trying to get the Orcs to play nice with Humans, it's what made her character. Now with her possibly being as unreasonable as Garrosh and Varian, how will the fighting ever end?
    I would say a large smoking crater would be a high probability outcome.

    More seriously though right now she's pissed, rightfuly so and out for some vengence. I suspect she'll calm down a bit after she has garrosh's head on a pike.

    Who is John Galt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Oh fecking wonderful... great.. Well done blizzard, make Jaina into a character worse then Varian who hates the horde after she tried to hard for peace.

    just... why can't they stop trying to appease the 'we need more WAR in warcraft' players.
    Because this expansion is built with us, the 'we need more WAR in warcraft' players, in mind; not you. Sucks to be you.
    In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousand fold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers, we are not simply protecting their trivial old age, we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations.” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956

  16. #296
    Now this is just pure speculation, but with Theramore, Jaina, atrocities under Org, all leads me to believe Jaina tries to stop Garrosh herself, only to be capture and experimented on. Pure mage with fel energies maybe? If it was Jaina, I could see both the Alliance (obviously) and the Horde (Thrall has always had a soft spot for her) going to stop Garrosh and help her. With the way the character is being built up it seems more likely to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mails-Prowers View Post
    Because Trassk unfortunately there are lots of players that have no idea about the lore of the game, haven't played before Wrath of the Lich King and they can only think of the PVP saying that we have to justify the PVP bringing the war in warcraft. What those players don't understand is that the term is World of Warcraft not a world where we are crafting war and have to be constantly on war. They also don't understand that War was always here either it was skirmitches between the Horde and the Alliance or against a major enemy.
    Warcraft 3 was the best of times and the story following it, in a time when attempts at peace was made but battles were still faught.

    Now, the whole thing STINKS of rancid plotholes. So Jaina one moment helps Baine take back thunderbluff, but then goes two faced and sends theramore troops to attack the barrens which leads to dead tauren. So the horde attacks theramore because of this two faced'ness, and now Jaina has gone from wanting peace, to being a 'RAWWRRRR SMASH ALL ORCS' worse then Varian??

    Its complete bloody plotholing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenarien View Post
    Because this expansion is built with us, the 'we need more WAR in warcraft' players, in mind; not you. Sucks to be you.
    What goes around comes around, so when mists is over and the wars over, your be whining like you have been all this time.

  19. #299
    Quote Originally Posted by Mails-Prowers View Post
    Because Trassk unfortunately there are lots of players that have no idea about the lore of the game, haven't played before Wrath of the Lich King and they can only think of the PVP saying that we have to justify the PVP bringing the war in warcraft. What those players don't understand is that the term is World of Warcraft not a world where we are crafting war and have to be constantly on war. They also don't understand that War was always here either it was skirmitches between the Horde and the Alliance or against a major enemy.
    Since when do PvPers actually care about lore? All they need to know is who's the enemy. I've been playing WoW since 2005 and WC3 before that. I know the lore pretty well, thank you. With all the horrors done by the Horde (Hillsbrad, Southshore, Ashenvale, Stonetalon, not forgetting Wrathgate and the Broken Front), it was just a matter of time before Jaina took a more aggressive stance. She could not remain a peacemaker long without looking stupid. It was also only a matter of time before the Horde tries to eliminate Theramore for its strategic importance. So now its impossible for Jaina to remain as optimistic on relations with the Horde. Anything else would just be insane and stupid. All this is perfectly logical.

    And face it: Warcraft has always been about the Alliance vs the Horde (or Humans vs Orcs). Even in WC3, they fight each other. Only in the last chapter of the Orc campaign do they forge an alliance of convenience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    What goes around comes around, so when mists is over and the wars over, your be whining like you have been all this time.
    Don't think I ever have to be honest. For now, your delicious tears will suffice.
    In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousand fold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers, we are not simply protecting their trivial old age, we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations.” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956

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