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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by Brazorf View Post
    It is not that I do not want a debate I do not want it *here* where it does not belong, if you want we can bring the others game up in PM
    Then I'm not really sure why you decided to interject yourself into a response that I was giving to another member on these forums about something completely off topic. You only served to help advance something you didn't want. Offtopic conversation.

  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyIommi View Post
    Then I'm not really sure why you decided to interject yourself into a response that I was giving to another member on these forums about something completely off topic. You only served to help advance something you didn't want. Offtopic conversation.
    true enough, my fault in that sense, I wanted to interject only that excellence is a matter more of perspective than anything especially about games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyIommi View Post
    Dota 2, Deus EX: Human Revolution, Battlefield 3, ME1 2 and 3, Skyrim, Starcraft 2. I prefer mine medium rare personally although I don't see the point in listing the games I play other than to give you an excuse to pick apart my taste. Should prove interesting though.
    Battlefield 3 is mediocre when compared to Battlefield 2 and Origin ruined the entire game. Did not decide to buy it, because of it.

    Was going to buy the entire series of ME. That is, until Mass Effect 3 came out. Since then I had no desire to buy it. Not going to play a series which loses its entire point at the final last minutes of the game, regardless of how good the rest was.

    Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim was pretty good, but it was extremely buggy and was a typical example of a console port. Also, the game is based around having mods, which is the charm of the ES community.

    StarCraft 2 was overall excellent. Always loved RTS games and this one was really good.

    DotA 2 is just a carbon copy of the WC 3 mod. Why would I ever bother buying such a game when I can play it for free, as well as League of Legends? Plus, I hate how they pretty much astaethically ripped-off a ton of units from WC 3 DotA that were based around WC 3 units. As an artist, I find the game to not have any artistical integrity when it is so obvious that they just copy+paste stuff into their game.

    Never played Deux EX: Human Revolution.

    Really, dude. If you are going to talk about good taste, then at least do not come up with telling others what is good or not. You are a freaking hypocrite who says that you have good taste while I don't, then stating stuff like "although I don't see the point in listing the games I play other than to give you an excuse to pick apart my taste".
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    Encounter Magda at her house: Cannot teleport away <- Is she restricted to a hearthstone or something???

    Those were illusions, or astral projections, whatever you want to call them. Why do you think we fought her servants and not herself? Because she was not actually there.

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    http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/s...hantom-menace/

    this video is the most biased PoS I have ever laid my eyes upon.. "Everyone who disagrees with me is an idiot" attitude is so unbelievably annoying.

    Yes, the movie sucks, but jesus don't act like a retarded kid that got its toys taken away because of it.

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  6. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by Frozen Death Knight View Post
    Battlefield 3 is mediocre when compared to Battlefield 2 and Origin ruined the entire game. Did not decide to buy it, because of it.

    Was going to buy the entire series of ME. That is, until Mass Effect 3 came out. Since then I had no desire to buy it. Not going to play a series which loses its entire point at the final last minutes of the game, regardless of how good the rest was.

    Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim was pretty good, but it was extremely buggy and was a typical example of a console port. Also, the game is based around having mods, which is the charm of the ES community.

    StarCraft 2 was overall excellent. Always loved RTS games and this one was really good.

    DotA 2 is just a carbon copy of the WC 3 mod. Why would I ever bother buying such a game when I can play it for free, as well as League of Legends? Plus, I hate how they pretty much astaethically ripped-off a ton of units from WC 3 DotA that were based around WC 3 units. As an artist, I find the game to not have any artistical integrity when it is so obvious that they just copy+paste stuff into their game.

    Never played Deux EX: Human Revolution.

    Really, dude. If you are going to talk about good taste, then at least do not come up with telling others what is good or not. You are a freaking hypocrite who says that you have good taste while I don't, then stating stuff like "although I don't see the point in listing the games I play other than to give you an excuse to pick apart my taste".
    Am I surprised the only game you had no complaint about was the Blizzard game? I mean I love sc2 but I'm sure you could have criticized it as well. Hell I love the game and I can come up with criticisms of it easy. It's a shock that you didn't. In fact I put it in on purpose to catch you in that. I see you bro don't worry. Your a big fan... I'll let you figure out what to append to the word fan to discover the appropriate title for you and people like you. You can also throw blind in front of that as well. I see you don't worry.

    I simply maintain in my opinion I have more discerning taste than you. You are welcome to disagree. In the future however I will no longer engage in such petty nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyIommi View Post
    It's possible. Alot of thigns are possible given enough time. That's far from the point. Like I could walk around and collect pennies off the ground whenever and at some point I would reach a dollar. It is HARDLY advantageous for the average player to simply keep farming when he has TONNES of gold sitting around to buy items with. The game is simply NOT sufficient to provide the items I need in a REASONABLE time frame. In fact the time frame is so long now that the "carrot" of the game is so distant I don't see the point. Other than farming gold to buy it. Yes I want to grind, I don't want to grind for an entire fucking year. Not only that I want interesting stuff and valuable stuff to drop when I grind. At some point it becomes an exercise in futility and ALL of it revolves around their perceived need for an AH. It's a huge issue and as more and more people progress through higher and higher difficulties people will make a bigger stink about it.
    Some of that I could agree with. Some of the randomization is simply too random, like the times the items have more than one main stat like Intellect, Dexterity, and Strength on the same item. Though, it is still not impossible to farm, which is what you are referring to.

    Still, that part I can understand, and Blizzard should look into it.

  8. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by Kapaya View Post
    Except that Diablo aint an MMO friend.
    actually.. it kinda is...

    just a more selective mmo.. with single player options (it is in no way a single player game) the reliance on the AH for gear instead of actually soloing content with what you find... the fact that AT ANY TIME another player could join you with/without permission(if friend/real ID at least) having to join with others (friend, or public game)... MMO with single player content.

    MMO doesnt necessarily require hundreds/thousands... or even dozens of players to be online in a single map/match at a single time... look at WoT, or others.
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  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by Frozen Death Knight View Post
    Some of that I could agree with. Some of the randomization is simply too random, like the times the items have more than one main stat like Intellect, Dexterity, and Strength on the same item. Though, it is still not impossible to farm, which is what you are referring to.

    Still, that part I can understand, and Blizzard should look into it.
    See but they have to double think about fixing the stats, because if gear starts to become decent all around then what happens to that economy they're responsible for? Unless they fix the randomization and compensate by making gear drop even less... It's not impossible to farm gear in this game it's just not very smart to do so and it doesn't feel as good as it does in other games like tl2 or even LoD. It's simply better to farm gold and buy it. That's by design and on purpose. Welcome to diablo 3
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  10. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaqwert View Post
    I remember the spring of 99, waiting in a line of over a hundred for like 2 hours so I could see the very first showing of the Phantom Menace, the first new Star Wars movie in about 15 years. I was too little to remember the other ones in the theater but the Star Wars franchise was one of my all time favorites, like just about everyone else on the planet.

    I had no doubts it was going to be awesome, I mean, it was the freaking Star Wars franchise, there's no way they'd ever make a bad Star Wars movie, amirite?

    I remember walking of of the theater not knowing what to think. I mean, deep down I knew it was a crappy movie, but maybe I was just processing it correctly. I actually saw it again the next weekend, there were parts that were cool, but it just felt cold and boring and at all interesting or compelling.

    And what is the movie's legacy? Well the hardcore fans hated it, the critics hated it, it's legacy was that of a bad joke, a punchline, the long awaited but disappointing and downright embarassing follow up to the legendary Star Wars franchise. The beginning of the end of the legend of Lucas.

    How could this have happened? How could they have made it so bad? I mean parts of it were good, but the bad parts are so bad and unnecessary, they could have easily been fixed. It's like the took all the charm, originality, and character and squeezed it out of the franchise.

    Interestingly enough the movie went on to be a major finacial success, in fact, not factoring in inflation, it's the #10 highest grossing movie of all time.

    Sound familiar?

    Behold, Diablo 3, the Phantom Menance. It's taken me a few weeks to recognize my feelings towards the game but now I remember when I felt like this before. It was after my couple viewings of Episode 1
    The major difference between that movie and this game, is that once the movie came out, it was unchangeable. George Lucas will never go back and fix the parts of the movie which completely sucked donkey anus, because movies are supposed to be art, and art is subjective. Blizzard, on the other hand, is already working on fixes and improvements to Diablo 3, and it's one of those things where they may take a long time just to get the game in a perfect place.

    Which is why it's important to provide constructive feedback on the game (discuss what you don't like and how you think it could be improved), but in a place where the developers will see it, like on the D3 website. Putting this thread here is not going to accomplish any of that, just to let you know.
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    Why? Because fuck you, that's why.

    Every time you have a question that begins with "Why?" that is about what other people prefer to do with their own goddamn time, come back here, and reread the first row of this post. That will ALWAYS be the answer to your question. Have a nice day.

  11. #231
    hIndeed diablo III is a shadow compared to the other 2. from a laghable story to the visuals of a 2004 game its sad why they decided to release it. A sucess in sales? No doubt. Justin biber is a sucess too, doesnt mean its good...
    English is not my main language so grammar errors might happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyIommi View Post
    Am I surprised the only game you had no complaint about was the Blizzard game? I mean I love sc2 but I'm sure you could have criticized it as well. In fact I put it in on purpose to catch you in that. I see you bro don't worry. Your a big fan... I'll let you figure out what to append to the word fan to figure out the appropriate title for you and people like you is. You can also throw blind in front of that as well. I see you don't worry.

    I simply maintain in my opinion I have better taste than you. You are welcome to disagree. In the future however I will no longer engage in such petty nonsense.
    You're telling me that you have good taste, then criticise me for liking some of the stuff you like? Okay.

    So you want me to explain some of the issues I have with StarCraft 2? Well, the Battle.Net is not as good as Battle.Net for a couple of reasons. No clan support, the custom games are not as easy to browse, and there is no good way making connections to other players so you have a reason to play in teams. As for the game itself, I thought the pacing of the story of the campaign was too slow between missions, and I dislike how Zerg lacks proper ranged units that can attack air in the first tier. Other than that, I love it.
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  13. #233
    Quote Originally Posted by Frozen Death Knight View Post
    You're telling me that you have good taste, then criticise me for liking some of the stuff you like? Okay.

    So you want me to explain some of the issues I have with StarCraft 2? Well, the Battle.Net is not as good as Battle.Net for a couple of reasons. No clan support, the custom games are not as easy to browse. As for the game itself, I thought the pacing of the story of the campaign was too slow between missions, and I dislike how Zerg lacks proper ranged units that can attack air in the first tier. Other than that, I love it.

    Good but your immediate response was to bash every other game I listed and let SC2 skate by. You know what that makes you right? You can't apply the same standard that you did to every other game I listed because sc2 is a Blizzard game. I see you for what you are don't worry.

  14. #234
    Quote Originally Posted by Karah View Post
    http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/s...hantom-menace/

    this video is the most biased PoS I have ever laid my eyes upon.. "Everyone who disagrees with me is an idiot" attitude is so unbelievably annoying.

    Yes, the movie sucks, but jesus don't act like a retarded kid that got its toys taken away because of it.
    You probably watched like the first 2 minutes. The people who made that video did it years after the movie came out, and they're not even huge Star Wars fans at all. They are movie buffs though, and the reviews they did are intended to be funny more than anything else.

    I'm glad you also think the movie sucks, but frankly, there are grown adults who think that it does not (and have actually put a decent amount of thought into that point of view). Sometimes things are just bad, and sometimes those who unabashedly continue to like them regardless just have poor and/or cheap taste.

    Bud Light is the best selling beer in the United States, afterall... This phenomenon is the entire point of the thread.

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  15. #235
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigtimmy View Post

    Bud Light is the best selling beer in the United States, afterall... This phenomenon is the entire point of the thread.
    Your not the first one to make that comparison and it fits in so many ways. I can drink bud once in a blue moon but it's definetly not something I could drink alot of or tolerate. Much like d3. I could log on for maybe an hour or so once a week and then probably not much more than that.

  16. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyIommi View Post
    Your not the first one to make that comparison and it fits in so many ways. I can drink bud once in a blue moon but it's definetly not something I could drink alot of or tolerate. Much like d3. I could log on for maybe an hour or so once a week and then probably not much more than that.
    Actually, I made that comparison at least once before in a thread about Diablo 3, so maybe you're just thinking of me, lol.

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  17. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigtimmy View Post
    Actually, I made that comparison at least once before in a thread about Diablo 3, so maybe you're just thinking of me, lol.
    Oh alright yea. I thought I saw it somewhere on the official forums to but it's definitely very apt. I guess if you have to drink beer drink bud but I couldn't stomach it and it's not stella artois. Of course someone is gonna tell me stella is french swill and I have no taste in beer but that mostly people getting defensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigtimmy View Post
    Bud Light is the best selling beer in the United States, afterall... This phenomenon is the entire point of the thread.
    I love Bud Light analogies because they're so easy to make. I wouldn't call D3 a Bud Light, though - it's higher quality than that. Maybe a Boulevard or Fat Tire? D1 and D2 were definitely premium domestics - maybe a Shiner or a Sam Adams.
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    Most people "like" diablo cus they want so bad to like it.
    Lucky blizzard that can have that kind of fanbase.

    Truth is tho Ive not had a single second of fun, enjoyment or interest in this game. Closest was maybe a bit running through the first game on normal.

    After that its just been a boring geargrind for stuff to sell, swimming through the piles of shit gear that you get on inferno mode. Gear you could get just the same of at late hell difficulty. Diablo 3 should b named ACUTION HOUSE instead. Buy all ur stuff from exploiters who got lategame b4 hotfixes, while the rest is stuck getting oneshot at act 2 and beyond, getting shit gear for the trouble. Ive gotten 4 legendaries and 1 set item on inferno. Woopie, most can barely be sold for 100k, some unsellable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyIommi View Post
    Good but your immediate response was to bash every other game I listed and let SC2 skate by. You know what that makes you right? You can't apply the same standard that you did to every other game I listed because sc2 is a Blizzard game. I see you for what you are don't worry.
    You considered that bashing? I just pointed out that even games you like a lot have flaws and some of them I also think are good. Telling others that they have bad or good taste is a hypocritical stance when you probably like games that are not viewed as that good by others, too. I have so far made no attempt at telling you that you have good taste or not, while you have been giving your all trying to tell me and others liking Diablo 3 that we have bad taste. Really, the backwards logic here is mind-boggling, if you ask me.

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