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  1. #41
    The problem with bullying is that with the policies at schools, you're just as much at blame as the bully. And it's retarded. The first step to reduce the amount of bullying would be to educate the people who make the rules, then make sure the teachers actually enforce them instead of turning a blind eye to anything that requires an ounce of work.

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    I'm not sure what you expect the schools to do. People keep saying that the schools should change their policys... but to what? Its hard to prove that one child is bullying another. Even if you have a pack of children saying Child X is bullying Child Y, it could very well be Child Y manipulating the situation, getting others to help him accuse the other child.

    Kids LIE THROUGH THEIR TEETH. If it's their friends, or a popular kid they will lie for them.

    I know when I was in high school I got in a fight with a girl. She came up to me. Still she and her friends convinced the staff that I started it. Sooo weeee suspension. Unless you put video cameras all over the place. (to which I'm not opposed, but then violence would always happen in the bath room instead) it's really hard to know who did what.

    I'm also at a complete loss at how you'd deal with non-physical bullying...

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    I know this may sound weird, but I think they need to reverse the zero-tolerance on fighting in schools. I went to 3 different high schools, pre zero tolerance, and there wasn't bullying like I've seen today. Kids are afraid to defend themselves. I know 1 person that had a mark on her record because she kissed some other broads boyfriend and the girl chased her down maced her and kicked the shit out of her. They were both arrested under the zero tolerance and expelled from school with criminal marks. The parents sued the district because there were about 50 witnesses that saw her get chased maced and kicked without touching the other girl at all. Bullies don't care but good students don't want this hassle
    I forgot they did this. Yeah this needs to go. As long as no weapons other then fists are involved, let the kids defend themselves. Nothing puts a cork on a bully like getting the tar beaten outta them.
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    The thing about fighting back is, the bullies are generally (saying generally here, I know this doesn't apply to every bully to ever exist) bigger and/or stronger than the victims, which is why they bully in the first place, because they know they can. Can't really blame some kids for not fighting back when this is the case. I personally have had this happen, and as much as I wanted to do something back, I knew I'd get my ass handed to me if I tried.

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    I think parents just need to stop letting their kids run rampant, anti bullying won't do much if there is no reinforcement at home.
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    a bully is a bully because of what goes on at home...fix that early enough and there would be far fewer bullies...sure, some will be bullies just cus they dumb, but we all know you cant fix stupid...

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    Anti bullying programs are useless

    When you are young its survival of the fittest it really is its sad but true

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    I really hate threads about bullying. They always end up with people say that bullied kids just need to grow thicker skin, or that they deserve what they get. It always gets me really depressed.
    Echoing that I hate the fact everyone tries to put a reason on a bully eg. "had a hard home life" et cetera. Some kids are just arseholes to other kids why do we need to justify it.

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    I certainly believe that if they were made well enough they would have an impact, just like any other type of information.

    With that said, the campaigns I've seen have just been horrid. They were made by people who don't know anything about bullying it seems and with some retarded catchphrase like "it's ok to be different". Did it stop bullies? No, the campaigns were lame and bullying carried on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combooticus View Post
    Anti bullying programs are useless

    When you are young its survival of the fittest it really is its sad but true
    I wish people stopped saying this retarded argument. Survival of the fittest my ass. A bully is NOT fit for society

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    Fifty years ago when bullying was commonplace and fighting was allowed in schools you didn't have as many over the top violent reactions to bullying. You also didn't have as many bullies either because it meant getting beat up once in a while when you picked on the wrong kid. If you can confront and resolve the problem in a controlled environment you wont go home and get a gun or 10 friends. The problem is now if you get into a fight in school you get arrested and fined... I don't know about you but if I had got arrested and fined in school my parents would have destroyed me. So what are your choices? Either get ripped apart by your parents or let the anger build till you lose it and go over the edge. A lot of times even standing up and getting your ass beat will earn you enough respect to get a bully to back off. Or if not and you're one of those who are truly afraid to get into a fight, have a friend beat their ass or pay a bigger bully to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castle View Post
    Fifty years ago when bullying was commonplace and fighting was allowed in schools you didn't have as many over the top violent reactions to bullying. You also didn't have as many bullies either because it meant getting beat up once in a while when you picked on the wrong kid. If you can confront and resolve the problem in a controlled environment you wont go home and get a gun or 10 friends. The problem is now if you get into a fight in school you get arrested and fined... I don't know about you but if I had got arrested and fined in school my parents would have destroyed me. So what are your choices? Either get ripped apart by your parents or let the anger build till you lose it and go over the edge. A lot of times even standing up and getting your ass beat will earn you enough respect to get a bully to back off. Or if not and you're one of those who are truly afraid to get into a fight, have a friend beat their ass or pay a bigger bully to do it.
    I'm sorry, but everything in this post shows you need to get a clue. It begins when you say that fifty years ago bullying was common place but then saying that there weren't so many bullies. It ends when you pretend that it's that easy to fight off a bully. Have you ever been bullied? If you were, you'd know things are far from being that simple. Let me tell you what happens when you "stand up to earn some respect": You get your ass kicked, and get even more bullied. Bullies bully because they can, because they are stronger, bigger. If you had a considerable chance to fight one off, do you think they would have the balls to trouble you?

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    It's not a complete waste of time, as it can stop some bullying.

    I was never bullied myself at school, but you see it happen. It generally makes it worse if they try and get help (by teachers, parents etc.), of course not all the time, sometimes it works.

    I guess it depends if your bully is a nutter or not

    I think the best thing to do is stand up for yourself and take a one time beating, they will probably respect you after that. If not, you may be in for a rough ride after that...

    Or you could just get someone bigger to help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight Gil View Post
    I'm sorry, but everything in this post shows you need to get a clue. It begins when you say that fifty years ago bullying was common place but then saying that there weren't so many bullies. It ends when you pretend that it's that easy to fight off a bully. Have you ever been bullied? If you were, you'd know things are far from being that simple. Let me tell you what happens when you "stand up to earn some respect": You get your ass kicked, and get even more bullied. Bullies bully because they can, because they are stronger, bigger. If you had a considerable chance to fight one off, do you think they would have the balls to trouble you?
    OH, I wasn't aware that you knew me. Yes I was bullied, I weighed 90 pounds and was 5 feet tall all through junior high and high school. But I was never bullied by the same person very long because I stood up for my self. Most bullies are bullies because nobody has ever stood up to them. They pick targets that they don't think will fight back and when you do, win or lose they usually stop.

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    I don't think teachers are given enough leeway to deal with bullies. If they make any kind of judgement you can have the parents of both parties honing in on you. The problem is most parents don't care that their kids are doing things like this or have that 'my baby wouldn't ever do that' mentality. I don't think people want to risk their livelihoods on the word of a child, which could easily be a lie.

    I knew a kid when I was younger who got bullied for months on end. His parents tried talking to the school to no avail and then tried the bullies parent. She couldn't care less. Eventually the kid flipped and absolutely went mental on the bully, threw a chair at him and broke his nose. His mum came in going on about 'how could you let me son be bullied'. As someone said, the problem with these things usually starts at home. Not a broken home even, just blind parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranluka View Post
    Kids LIE THROUGH THEIR TEETH. If it's their friends, or a popular kid they will lie for them.
    Everybody lies(a lot), not just kids.

  18. #58
    Sadly, bullying is pretty much the new cool for today's youth. In 2011, the American Justice Department stated that 1 in 4 kids will be abused by another kid, especially with the technology and social media emphasis in today's society, internet communities, etc. Kids are growing up with direct influence from these toxic communities and kids are adapting this into what they consider the cool thing.

    Go listen to xbox live chat on MW3 for a bit and hear all these 10 year olds screaming nigger, retard, faggot, etc at each other for no reason but to say it. This is what is looked at as cool anymore.

    I'm not trying to put a lot of blame on the internet here but it does have some influence. When kids are exposed to unfiltered trolling, foul language, and indecent behavior at younger and younger ages, it is having some effect on the mind sets of the kids. Parents can step in and handle this though which is what the ass kicker is. Proper parental blocks, proper parenting and school communication to keep your kid in line when bullying in schools, etc would go a long way to fixing this. Many of today's parents are just in that "don't give a fuck" mind set and aren't paying attention to nor disciplining their children.

    If I acted the way these bullies are today, my mom and dad would have bent me over and spanked my ass in public. Today's kids though will call the cops at 8 years old if their parent does that. There's a massive generational gap that's contributing to this massive outbreak of bullying behavior.

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