Why are people so casual now?

[Selvari7]

Now >> old days.

Barely anything better from when our parents or grandparents grew up.

[Halicia]

Even if it was, everyone looks the same when naked.

They really don't. Some people groom their bodyhair and bath once in a while.... some don't.

How you present yourself is a reflection on those around you.

Why are people so casual in their everyday life now ? Because they simply don't care about other people.

Oh, they'll dress up nicely for a business lunch, church, or a first date... but as far as shopping, etc... well... have you SEEN the people at walmart ?

[Knight Gil]

I accept everything else you said (opinions are vital to proper conversation!). However okay and not okay is determined entirely by personal opinion and social norms.

their parents just think it's OK...well... It's NOT OKAY!!!

When you (note it's a figurative you, it was other person) make such a claim, you aren't acting like okay and not okay is determined entirely by personal opinion and social norms. You are acting like it's some unbreakable rule of the universe. I don't get what's up with this kind of dogmatism

They really don't. Some people groom their bodyhair and bath once in a while.... some don't.

How the fuck does wearing casual clothes equal to not having a bath?

How you present yourself is a reflection on those around you.

I hang around with all the kind of people. "Well-dressed" and "viking-like". This is very, very false.

Why are people so casual in their everyday life now ? Because they simply don't care about other people.

Such bullshit. These silly pseudo-arguments might work on a child, but I'm not one. I know what it is to care about other people, and it isn't about how you dress. If you think it comes down to that, you must be a terrible friend...

Oh, they'll dress up nicely for a business lunch, church, or a first date... but as far as shopping, etc... well... have you SEEN the people at walmart ?

No, because I don't care. I'm not one to care about that which is not, and should not be, my business

[Streetfarm]

I just don't give a rat's ass about what other people think. I do stuff for myself, and if I want to look handsome I get a suit, and if I want to feel comfortable I'll get relaxing clothes. Why is it not ok to wear wtf you feel like?

[wimbo125]

What is not okay? Why is it not okay? I will not accept any answer based on personal opinion or stupid social norms.

So you don't agree with me that you should look sharply dressed when going out, especially for dinner?? I don't know what the situation is where you live, but in the Netherlands we see going out for dinner as a formal and special occassion, and one should dress appropriate for such an event, at least, in my humble opinion. I'd rather change my reservation or move to a less comfortable place than sit next to people all dressed in hooded sweaters.

[MC Payne]

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[Ryngo Blackratchet]

Now >> old days.

Barely anything better from when our parents or grandparents grew up.

Big difference actually. Then, they dressed to show that they were proud of what little they could scrape up for clothes. To show they had that self respect.

People today have no idea what pride even is. Our younger generation isn't proud of shit. What exactly do they stand for?

[crica]

People today have no idea what pride even is. Our younger generation isn't proud of shit. What exactly do they stand for?

Us younger generations are quite proud and vigilantly stand for our understanding and acceptance of people whom are different then ourselves - two things the older generations refuse to adopt into their attitudes about things that simply do not harm anyone by being done or not done, apparently.

[jibbyjackjoe]

I dunno, but I love going into my local walmarts and seeing it in its glory.

[Invictus9001]

Casual is meant for comfort? :P (I'm reminded here of the one scene from.. the original Pirates of the Caribbean[?] where Elizabeth mumbles about corsets.)

If you're going to a job interview at an investment company, you'd be bloody well expected to put on a suit and tie with some dress shoes. If you're simply outside in your garage working on your car, it'd be a terrible waste (IMO) to put on anything dressy just to get motor-oil/gasoline and the like on it. I know *I* wouldn't put on a pin-stripe suit just to do an oil-change. :P

[rederoin]

I myself don't put effort in what kind of clothes I wear, becease I don't see the purpose of it.

[gend]

Hm good question actually.

While I generally don't care what someone wears I obviously unconsciously judge (first impression) like everyone else does.
As I am aware of this behavior when I want to achieve something or representant someone I specifically choose the attire to be befitting.

This goes both ways too. Wearing a suit in a lab is pretty much as bad as wearing something casual at a fancy dinner party.

Now if I want to go out with the purpose of feeling good I will dress according to that and live with the consequences .

Edit:
Oh and as for teh difference between now and then. I think it's obviously due to cultural and sociological changes. Mostly whoever you idolize and who you learn from. If I had been brought up always wearing, seeing and being told that suits are the only way to go, then chances are I'd wear suits all day, every day.

[omglazor]

Leggings are not pants, that is all.

@OP: Dressing in suits and khakis all the time ain't exactly comfortable either. One must strike a balance between comfortable and presentable, which most people are decent at. Then there are of course leggings, but I think that demographic is beyond saving.

[Ryngo Blackratchet]

Us younger generations are quite proud and vigilantly stand for our understanding and acceptance of people whom are different then ourselves - two things the older generations refuse to adopt into their attitudes about things that simply do not harm anyone by being done or not done, apparently.

Beautiful, but that's nothing to be proud of. I'm not saying you shouldn't be proud of it, I'm saying you're not. You're not accomplishing anything there.

No one's going to come up to you and say "Blah dee blah you dress like a bum" if you're just going to wal-mart for lotion or hitting Home Depot for a toilet seat. But when you're out with your girl shopping, or having dinner or going to pick a friend up from the airport, style yourself up. No one's saying you should put on a three piece suit, but why not wear an ironed button up with the sleeves neatly rolled up to your elbows. Maybe slide a vest on over that. A tie to compliment the color of the shirt and hat you threw on before you leave. (Also news flash, america. Baseball caps aren't the only hats )

You dress to impress yourself, to let the people around you know that you want to look as good as you feel. Problem is that people don't care about self image or self respect anymore. It's not that "Man I wear what's comfy"... no they wear T-shirts because they just don't care. Simple as that. Most have never even considered having a nicer wardrobe for common activities. And it shows.

To each their own, eh?

[ridish]

"one piece" (not the manga). Ugh i hate it (the clothing not the manga)

[crica]

Beautiful, but that's nothing to be proud of. I'm not saying you shouldn't be proud of it, I'm saying you're not. You're not accomplishing anything there.

No one's going to come up to you and say "Blah dee blah you dress like a bum" if you're just going to wal-mart for lotion or hitting Home Depot for a toilet seat. But when you're out with your girl shopping, or having dinner or going to pick a friend up from the airport, style yourself up. No one's saying you should put on a three piece suit, but why not wear an ironed button up with the sleeves neatly rolled up to your elbows. Maybe slide a vest on over that. A tie to compliment the color of the shirt and hat you threw on before you leave. (Also news flash, america. Baseball caps aren't the only hats )

You dress to impress yourself, to let the people around you know that you want to look as good as you feel. Problem is that people don't care about self image or self respect anymore. It's not that "Man I wear what's comfy"... no they wear T-shirts because they just don't care. Simple as that. Most have never even considered having a nicer wardrobe for common activities. And it shows.

To each their own, eh?

What someone other then me wears doesn't harm anyone nor does it matter (other then functionality - Fire-proof gloves for welders, etc) - so you acting like it matters is your problem, not other peoples.

What exactly is going to happen if I wear a t-shirt and sweats instead of a fancy dress for dinner out with my husband?

I am going to be more comfortable and be able to pay attention to my husband the majority of my time with him if I wear a t-shirt and sweats where as I am going to be less comfortable and have to pay more attention to my attire the majority of my time with him if I wear a fancy dress.

I would rather worry about what I want to do then what I am wearing while doing it - the only time what I wear even remotely matters is in the functionality of clothes (how they protect you from the elements).

[bamf775]

The only reason people dress casually is because they are lazy. nuff said. The excuse that "you don't care what other think" is pathetic and old. How you dress makes a first impression and it also shows that you appreciate yourself and are presentable/approachable.

[crica]

The only reason people dress casually is because they are lazy. nuff said. The excuse that "you don't care what other think" is pathetic and old. How you dress makes a first impression and it also shows that you appreciate yourself and are presentable/approachable.

I appreciate what I do more then what I wear while I do it.

Other then making sure I am dressed to protect myself, I spend my time worrying about what I am going to do not worrying about what I am going to wear.

If that offends anyone, they are welcome to spend their time shopping for a wardrobe they prefer me to wear while I spend my time with things that actually matter.

[bamf775]

I appreciate what I do more then what I wear while I do it.

Other then making sure I am dressed to protect myself, I spend my time worrying about what I am going to do not worrying about what I am going to wear.

If that offends anyone, they are welcome to spend their time shopping for a wardrobe they prefer me to wear while I spend my time with things that actually matter.

It doesn't offend people what you wear. Its just another issue America faces today. Lack of accountability.

[crica]

It doesn't offend people what you wear. Its just another issue America faces today. Lack of accountability.

How is it an issue? What am I to be held accountable for?