and you can't discuss something with people not willing to face facts, reality etc - that guy said he didn't think it would be released to october to begin with but also didn't think revamping an entire zone would contribute to such a late release date and that taking this zone offline for extended period to revamp it was probably planned
not deriding anyone who can up with an intelligent response to begin with
and with that I will say no more
Guys just look at Sensa's post history. It's a troll who says in almost every post he wont play MoP, but still comes here to reply so just ignore him
The heck? Monks get a special place now too!? That does it...I want a thieves-guild-esque-super-secret-hideout for rogues! That's how SI:7 should have been from the very beginning anyways. It's basically the Alliance's CIA and we're letting any old fool off the street just waltz right in!
As another said it is possible that they are guiding the tests elsewhere (as they did at the beginning to test the pandaren starting areas) if they see that people stuck in that zone and not testing anything else.
You may be right, or you may be wrong, no one is denying that this can be the reason, we are just exploring possible other reasons for this. But you're the one that we can't discuss with because *you* are the one that have closed the windows to any other possibility if not your own ideas and that per se has *no discussion values* also again with the fanboy card you just burned any possible chance of discussion because "you don't agree with me so you're a fanboy or brainwhased" and that does not create ground for discussion.
Reality is that you don't want to *discuss* anything you're just looking for people nodding at your ideas to nurture your ego.
Last edited by Brazorf; 2012-06-09 at 09:35 AM.
adding to my previous comment about not being able to discuss anything with people living on another planet I just got trashed for making assumptions and having no proof
so I WILL QUOTE FROM THE BLUE POST DIRECTLY:
With the next patch to the World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria beta, we will be temporarily removing the Jade Forest zone. We’re going to be making improvements to the zone, We expect Jade Forest to be offline for an extended period of time; we’ll provide further details as we progress with our updates to the zone.
apparently only on a wow fansite can "be making improvements" and "further details as we can progress with our updates to the zone" not actually mean they are doing what they say they are doing
I give up...you people are just too smart for me
Last edited by Sensa; 2012-06-09 at 09:41 AM.
Point taken, so apologies for excessively jump to conclusions and maybe be a bit harsher than necessary. Sadly there are *many* people that use your same arguments to just dismiss every other idea or chance to discussion, that I'm not used to actually having someone telling the same things with an actual point
I missed a few lines in the blue text
However, Improvements =/= revamp
and they also stated "and want to put the focus of testing on other areas during this time." so both points end up to be somwewhat valids
extende period of time can mean few hours or few days not necessarily "months"
There are also extended maintenance but they are some hours longer than normal one *shrug*
Last edited by Brazorf; 2012-06-09 at 10:07 AM.
People are going to be far more reception to badly articulated ideas if you don't come across as a jerk and try and attack them with every post. For the record, I think you're right. I'm now predicting a mid August release, but not because of this information, I'm going from the fact that 5.0 isn't on the PTR yet, it's close, but it's not there.
From pre-expansion PTR to expansion usually takes two months, as it did from Wrath to Cataclysm - our most recent basis for comparison.
Raid content has probably been done and ready to ship out for testing for a while now, it's just how stuff's done, heroic testing comes first.
Just calm down, so you've found someone who disagrees with you, welcome to the world and especially the internet. There's plenty more out there.
Sensa, are you feeling well?
Ah yes, revamp =/= improvements. Seriously. Unless Blizzard says so. Which they didnt.
Everyone has their predictions on when MoP will release. But that's all they are - predictions. This news on Jade Forest doesn't change anything, and your condescending tone is not warranted and certainly not needed.
"We also looked at the effects in a more neutral colored zone and made some easier to see". Ah, I saw what you did there... all those plants and bushes and flowers obscuring the player (is that a gnome mage, there?) are certainly neutral.
They are already raiding on the closed beta F&F servers.. my God, check out the patch notes from weeks ago. Do you really think they are making adjustments to the achievements for raiding without anyone actually doing the raids already? What people have to realize is that because of the Annual Pass situation, the ópen´beta is a very old version of what they are actually working on. You hear this from GC constantly when he talks about a change to a spell and says that a change he already implemented and is playing won´t be on the beta servers for a patch or two. This beta is drastically different than any of the others because the AP numbers got out of control.
As for Jade Forest, sorry to burst your bubble, but they are not doing major quest revamps or any new secret stuff. The downtime is to optimize the new cross realm/ multi-zone feature, which will need to be used extensively in Jade Forest to prevent Hellfire Pen issues (since 95% of a servers population will be in that one zone the first week). More specifically, they are optimizing the way it will work on pvp realms to balance factions when a single realm has more than one ´copy´of Jade Forest.