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    Ignore all the naysayers bashing the armed forces, none of them have got a bloody clue what it means to be a soldier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beth17 View Post
    Thanks to everyone who has responded but can I add that this thread was intended to get advice on how to get into the military not to reinforce my parents beliefs
    Several local colleges do some called the pre uniformed services course, it prepares you for the military/fireservice/police. Why not look into it? its a year/2 year course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    As A serving soldier I would advise you do not join until 18 anyway, boys soldiers as we call them (under 18) are the lowest of the low and completely useless. You will be stuck on base doing crap while the 18+ get to do the fun stuff. Not to mention you will be stuck on base when they all go out "socialising". Wait for 2 years, it will be so much easier on you.
    Listen to this guy? dont act like a 16yold on a tantrum. The Army will still be there when youre 18, meeting adults and parents 'halfway' is indeed the mature thing to do. If you feel waiting 1-2 years is too long? then you have a very juvenile way of thinking and shuldnt be making such a huge decision, joinig the army is a serious life choice treat it like one and show your parents youre responsible and this is not a hasty choice youve made.
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    What's wrong with taking time off?

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    Wait for them. Its not long.

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    OP you are still a child stuck to your parents will like a little baby; and as long as you let them decide for you, or let their feelings lead you, then you are not ready yet. Then you are still a naive teen who hasn't reached maturity yet.
    (And don't see this as me being mean at you; if you do, then your are definatly not ready yet.)

    You should try and let your parents understand that you are going to be an adult in a few years. It is them who need to accept your choices about your live, and that they no longer are the ones who call the shots.

    However they do have a bit of a point, wich you might not see:
    If you want to join the army, but you let your "mummy and daddy" still pamper you by not getting a job during those 2 years, then they do have a point, and you should not join the army. The army needs strong induviduals who know how to work and work hard; they do not need people who are basicly still stuck to their parents and to lazy to work all day, every day, 12 hour a day.

    And another question is important here, one that a lot of teens never think off:
    Do you miss your parents when you are away from home from a week or 2? Like when you are on vacation with friends?

    If the awnser is a "yes" or "never been away for so long" (or the likes), then do not join the army. You might be away for months on (training) missions, and then you might not even be able to phone your parents, let alone work your homesickness away. And that will cause a lot of issues for you.

    However in the end, noone can make your choices about this. You have to know that want to join, and be ready to work for that choice. No 100% shure yet? Join a year, or two later. Not shure about the Brittish army, but the Dutch army accepts recruits aged from 18 till about late 20s (depending on need). And you can also choose to go to school, get a higher education, and join the army afterwards.

    But in the end, it your choice and yours alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    Ignore all the naysayers bashing the armed forces, none of them have got a bloody clue what it means to be a soldier.
    Let's just say we have a different perspective.

    You may love the military life, enjoy the opportunities, etc.

    The fact remains that as a member of the armed forces you're a politician's tool - to be used when it's politically expedient, with limited freedom for yourself.

    Fortunately for the OP, his parents are not only smarter than he is, but also still in charge of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiphon View Post
    Let's just say we have a different perspective.

    You may love the military life, enjoy the opportunities, etc.

    The fact remains that as a member of the armed forces you're a politician's tool - to be used when it's politically expedient, with limited freedom for yourself.

    Fortunately for the OP, his parents are not only smarter than he is, but also still in charge of him.
    Do you pay taxes? Congratulations, you are the fuel in the military machine. Move to Antartica and live as a hermit before bashing others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiphon View Post
    Let's just say we have a different perspective.

    You may love the military life, enjoy the opportunities, etc.

    The fact remains that as a member of the armed forces you're a politician's tool - to be used when it's politically expedient, with limited freedom for yourself.

    Fortunately for the OP, his parents are not only smarter than he is, but also still in charge of him.
    Even so, it's still the best job I've ever had.

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    Hm how about joining the red cross for 1 year? (Or similar organisations.)

    Also in germany there are alot of 1 year jobs for people to help the society (like work at a hospital, schools for the handicapped, kindergardens, retirement homes, etc.).

    The pay will be lower than flipping burgers probably but the feel will be better.
    Also some skills might be helpful in the field and your parents can't be against you helping people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiphon View Post
    Let's just say we have a different perspective.

    You may love the military life, enjoy the opportunities, etc.

    The fact remains that as a member of the armed forces you're a politician's tool - to be used when it's politically expedient, with limited freedom for yourself.

    Fortunately for the OP, his parents are not only smarter than he is, but also still in charge of him.
    Um, has that ever NOT been the case and is that such a bad thing?

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    Ok I'm missing something here, the OP is under 18 why aren't they in school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    Ok I'm missing something here, the OP is under 18 why aren't they in school?
    leave school at 16 in the UK.

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    As a former high ranking member of the military i advise you to wait till you are over 18.
    It's not only in your favor but also in the favor of the people who will have to "watch over you".

    Listen to your parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failerovski View Post
    As a former high ranking member of the military i advise you to wait till you are over 18.
    It's not only in your favor but also in the favor of the people who will have to "watch over you".

    Listen to your parents.
    What rank were you may I ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    What rank were you may I ask?
    I was a "Потполковник" it's the equivalent to the U.S Lieutenant Colonel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failerovski View Post
    I was a "Потполковник" it's the equivalent to the U.S Lieutenant Colonel.
    A lot of responsibility, I pick up my Majors crown next year, looking forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    A lot of responsibility, I pick up my Majors crown next year, looking forward to it.
    Wish you all the best, hope you will enjoy your military career longer than i did.
    Anyway the british armed forces are great and have my highest respect, had a good time with them in the ISAF.

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    In my country the age of adulthood is 16 and I am 17. The reason I am so angry is because I have been open minded about the military - when my parents told me to look at the bad aspects I did but they have not been open minded. I asked them to look at the positives and they said all the positives are lies and 'propoganda'. They are the ones being childish. I've also been running working to improve my fitness everyday for weeks and have began a course of press ups to improve strength. I am taking positive steps in order to win my parents over and they cover their ears and don't listen - AND IM THE CHILD!? Also to answer your question I don't miss my parents when I am away from them. Also I can't get a job as somebody said unemployment is sky high. My twin sister couldn't even find volunteer work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beth17 View Post
    Mirun
    In my country the age of adulthood is 16 and I am 17. The reason I am so angry is because I have been open minded about the military - when my parents told me to look at the bad aspects I did but they have not been open minded. I asked them to look at the positives and they said all the positives are lies and 'propoganda'. They are the ones being childish. I've also been running working to improve my fitness everyday for weeks and have began a course of press ups to improve strength. I am taking positive steps in order to win my parents over and they cover their ears and don't listen - AND IM THE CHILD!? Also to answer your question I don't miss my parents when I am away from them. Also I can't get a job as somebody said unemployment is sky high. My twin sister couldn't even find volunteer work.
    You are doing all you can, keep training and study as much about the armed forces as much as possible. Learn the weapons, ranks, units etc..... then join at 18, it will be so much easier on you. PM me if you need specific help with any subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beth17 View Post
    In my country the age of adulthood is 16 and I am 17.
    The school leaving age is 16, yes, owever few will consider you an adult untill 18 because you can't do jackshit because you have to be 18 for so many things.

    Left school =/= adult

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