This is Just Sad...

[Deleted]

http://i.imgur.com/fd38j.jpg

Sad that someone spent $100 on a single in-game item to be better at a game that got old 2 weeks ago, or sad that Blizzard is making exorbitant profits with a 15% cut on each of said sales?

Are you really calling people sad to spend money on their hobby ? Are you really one of those people ? Besides, it's not because you think the game got old and boring it means it did. Also did you know pay pal is taking the most money of those auctions ?

[Kujako]

What's sad is how easy people judge others for how they choose to play the game.

Thing is that by buying gear they are choosing to NOT play the game. It's like buying points in basketball. If you just walk in, hand over a fee and declare yourself the winner, are you really playing?

Dont get me wrong, its their money and they can do what they choose with it. It's just odd behavior to me.

[Dexiefy]

Some people have more dollars then sense. The whole point of the game is to find gear, if you just buy the stuff, what's left to do in the game?

i think their analogy is either "to be the best" (wait, what? the best in diablo?) or to get gear to farm gear so they can get money back... they only forget that items will only get cheaper and cheaper and more and more people will be able to get best items in game, reducing the prices even more.
If blizz will go through with hardcore RMAH it will be even more fun... See a guy who spent 1500$ or euros for in game items and then died lul

[Beace]

Thing is that by buying gear they are choosing to NOT play the game. It's like buying points in basketball. If you just walk in, hand over a fee and declare yourself the winner, are you really playing?

Dont get me wrong, its their money and they can do what they choose with it. It's just odd behavior to me.

There's different ways to play the game. Personally I have no plans on spending real money on gear (nor sell). But I fully understand that some players rather spend the money from a few hours at work to get an awesome weapon, instead of farming gold in-game for 100 hours.

[khuur]

Enjoy...

http://imgur.com/fd38j

*** Please Make Link!

I'm trying to figure out why anyone taking ANY cut of this is a problem?

1. Blizzard makes the game.
2. They put a real money auction house in the game as a component for people to buy the game and play it.
3. They drop the items randomly in a game for you to sell FOR REAL MONEY.
4. You post it on THEIR auction house in THEIR game that THEY built at no cost to you.
5. You get REAL money in your REAL bank account from selling items in a GAME.

Why is anyone complaining about this at all? Who cares if PayPal and Blizzard take their cut? They are legitimate businesses that are in the business of making money. You are just some person sitting in their living room that had the luck of finding an item that you could sell to someone else.

[Deleted]

Did you (or someone else?) just take a photo of their computer monitor with a camera?
I don't know which is more sad, that or the fact that someone spent their money on something they wanted.

[Lypo]

Have people already forgotten about Project Entropia, which gave us gems such as this?

[Eggowaffles]

People telling other people how to spend their money.

How silly.

[Kujako]

I'm trying to figure out why anyone taking ANY cut of this is a problem?

The problem to me is the 60$ price tag on the game. I have no issue with ancillary income generation on a free or even a low cost game, but charging full price for a game with a built in micro payment system crosses a threshold that I find distasteful. In fact, I had opted to not buy Diablo 3 due to this, but since I was going to be playing WoW I opted into the season pass.

[Deleted]

Some people have more dollars then sense. The whole point of the game is to find gear, if you just buy the stuff, what's left to do in the game?

thats the part I dont understand - If there was a whole New act - say Act 5 which was totally new, with new bosses and mobs that was insanely hard, and only the best geared players could progress, then maybe hardcore gamers might spend their hard earned ( parents money) - But just to kill the same things - Boggles my mind -

I going to spend my money of going to the Cinema with the wife, then maybe spend some more of my money of a nice meal out - ---

[PraLiNeN]

Thing is that by buying gear they are choosing to NOT play the game. It's like buying points in basketball. If you just walk in, hand over a fee and declare yourself the winner, are you really playing?

Dont get me wrong, its their money and they can do what they choose with it. It's just odd behavior to me.

Maybe, just maybe they wanted to invest so they will have easier time farming so they could sell awesome-holy-crap gear and earn back what they initially spent and then possibly earn more after that?

I don't know, but I think it's quite a true hypothesis. And there are probably more people thinking the same.

It's the same with gold AH, (keep the upgrade you found and have easier time farming, or sell it for some millions but have a harder time farming).

[alturic]

The problem to me is the 60$ price tag on the game. I have no issue with ancillary income generation on a free or even a low cost game, but charging full price for a game with a built in micro payment system crosses a threshold that I find distasteful. In fact, I had opted to not buy Diablo 3 due to this, but since I was going to be playing WoW I opted into the season pass.

So being that Blizzard is taking a cut of the pie when you sell an item, which take out the words "Real Money Auction House" and insert "Diabay" and it's the same thing as eBay. They make money off of you selling things.

[Kujako]

Next April is going to be interesting. I wonder if the IRS will go after Blizzard for not processing 1099 forms for players who gross over 20,000$ (and I expect there to be a few such people the way things are going).

[Troopcsd]

The funniest part about this is that the IAS on Inna's Glory still hasn't been fixed, so that person just paid $99.99 for a non-working item.

[Candiman]

Next April is going to be interesting. I wonder if the IRS will go after Blizzard for not processing 1099 forms for players who gross over 20,000$ (and I expect there to be a few such people the way things are going).

Do the IRS go after auction houses for not processing forms for the people that sell items in their auction house? Oh and 15% is a standard auction house cut on a sale. The only difference is the items that are sold in Diablo are virtual.

[MarizzaDraenor]

Well i dont like the RMAh and wont use but the cut is kinda insane. 15 % is a lot especially when transactions reach those heights

Cant understand how the RMAH is legal btw on sooo many countries especially on Europe they should get a legal storm just for tax evasion

[Deleted]

Well i dont like the RMAh and wont use but the cut is kinda insane. 15 % is a lot especially when transactions reach those heights

Cant understand how the RMAH is legal btw on sooo many countries especially on Europe they should get a legal storm just for tax evasion

15% or not, you can still make free money from it. Stop complaining

[Lathais]

Do you have a clear source for this?
I think they are just collecting it, but the mones goes to paypal I believe.
http://eu.battle.net/support/en/arti...nformation#q16
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/game/guid...ion-house#fees

Fees

Before you post your auction, you’ll see any fees that apply to your listing displayed in the center section of the Sell tab. These fees will only be charged if your auction successfully sells, and will automatically be deducted from the item’s final selling price.
For Equipment (weapons, armor, accessories, and other unique items)


Transaction Fee (Gold Auction House): 15% of final sale price
Transaction Fee (Real-Money Auction House): $1.00 USD per item / $1.00 AUD per item
Transfer Fee (when sending proceeds to PayPal or other authorized payment-service provider): 15% of amount being transferred


For Commodities (gems, materials, dyes, pages, recipes, and other non-unique items)

Transaction Fee (Gold Auction House): 15% of final sale price
Transaction Fee (Real-Money Auction House): 15% of final sale price
Transfer Fee (when sending proceeds to PayPal or other authorized payment-service provider): 15% of amount being transferred

According to that page, there is a transfer fee of 15%, it does not say who it goes to. It does not say it goes to paypal, it is a transfer fee that they charge you. Paypal does not charge a fee to transfer money into your account on anything else that I am aware of, at lest not in this amount, why would they one this? I bolded to show, it does not say "Paypal transaction Fee," just "when sending to Paypal or anywhere else."

The way I read it, Blizz is charging it. They don't charge it for b.net balance cause you are gonna spend it with them(or it sits in their bank and they get interest on it), if you are not going to spend it with them, they take a cut. Presumably they may share a portion of this fee with paypal, but not the whole 15%. This is Blizz making money, do not fool yourself.

That said, I am totally ok with it. It is a reasonable fee for money that I am making from playing a game. It does seem a bit high, but no big deal really.

[MarizzaDraenor]

15% or not, you can still make free money from it. Stop complaining

I am against the rmah in general not only due to the 15%.

You do realize that on such an environment in order for you or me or anyone else to make money someone else has to lose money? Taking advantage of a few idiots (cause besides the rich people you will hit some "idiots" also) is a bit extreme and completely uncalled for in a gaming environment imo.

Its their call if they press the buttons or not ofc and use the rmah or not but imo with a 250 limit on the rmah per item things can get out of control really fast. You ll be surprised at how many youngsters have credit cards and are ready to abuse them. But when the check goes to their parents and people have mortgages and bills etc to pay i am afraid of what might happen.

I see it like a casino sort of. House always wins customer besides a few exceptions they never do in the long run. You hope to be one of the exceptions what if you are 1000 euros in in a month from now and cant break even?

[Deleted]

Sad that someone spent $100 on a single in-game item to be better at a game that got old 2 weeks ago, or sad that Blizzard is making exorbitant profits with a 15% cut on each of said sales?

You need to take a better look. Blizzard takes a 1% cut of the transaction. Its PAYPAL that takes the 15% cut. Don't blame others for what paypal does. :P