IGN article ''why do people hate EA?''

**edgecrusher** · 2012-06-20, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by TonyIommi

Actually all the dlc so far has been free. It's great. The multiplayer dlc has been free so far as well. I don't understand how that is a negative. Even when EA does something good they can't get credit for it.

Not exactly true:

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Downloadable_Content

**Digglett** · 2012-06-20, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by Irony

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...nic_Arts_games

I don't consider DLC soulless, nor the death of a "beloved" franchise.

Doesn't show DLC.

Originally Posted by Caiada

I'd take, for example, Edge's review, over some hardcore fan. Case-in-point is literally every single major sequel released for the past 20 years.

Considering it's like, the only life simulator, there is literally nothing else. Of course it's going to get good reviews on that alone.

**Leonard McCoy** · 2012-06-20, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by pickles

Because Shepard doesnt have Cerberus to rebuild him this time...

You didn't know about Cerberus the first time either and that's really besides the point. You can accept that a man came back from the dead but not that he survived a fall from space. You can swallow that he was probably brain dead for awhile but they still managed to bring him back from the dead and not be a snivelling drooling moron but you can't accept that he fell from space and survived. Honestly why does him surviving the destruction of the citadel surprise you that much when he's survived the destruction of so much other crap (including the first normandy) in the past. He's Shepard. You can literally choose survivor as his origin.

**Skelington** · 2012-06-20, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by Caiada

And yet according to most reviewers, it's a pretty decent game (actually, literally every reviewer listed on metacritic; they list independent ones, before you attack that blindly.) From what I've seen (a limited amount), I'd also agree. Going overboard with DLC is not the same as gutting a game for DLC.

So, yeah, exaggerations all around.

Review sites aren't very reliable. They get payed out the wazoo.

**Stocking** · 2012-06-20, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by edgecrusherO0

I don't consider costume packs real DLC. Cosmetic changes aren't content and take almost no time to implement.

Im not 100% sure but i think the costumes changed Alice's abilities. I know the weapons did and most of them were pretty OP.

**Leonard McCoy** · 2012-06-20, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by edgecrusherO0

Not exactly true:

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Downloadable_Content

My mistake I forgot about from the ashes. Al right that still doesn't invalidate them giving us two free multi player packs so far and a redone ending. Should they not be given some credit for that?

**edgecrusher** · 2012-06-20, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by pickles

Im not 100% sure but i think the costumes changed Alice's abilities. I know the weapons did and most of them were pretty OP.

Meh, not a fan of stuff like that (I looked up the DLC which was apparently 2 bucks and consisted of like 5 new dresses and 1 new version of each weapon), but that's the simplest form of DLC to put out. I'm more than willing to bet that they had extra art assets lying around and wanted to use them to they tossed them into the DLC. Heck, the game feels insanely padded just so that they could use up all the art assets as it is :P

Originally Posted by TonyIommi

My mistake I forgot about from the ashes. Al right that still doesn't invalidate them giving us two free multi player packs so far and a redone ending. Should they not be given some credit for that?

Totally. But I'm not discounting that part of the reasoning behind the free updates is a bit of damage control. They took quite a beating from the internet over the ME3 ending and lost some "gamer cred" (whatever that's worth).

**Irony** · 2012-06-20, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by Digglett

Doesn't show DLC.

Yeah surprisingly that Wiki doesn't exist.

Going through that list, tons of great games on there, that might not of seen the light, had the soulless company of EA, showed interest.

**Leonard McCoy** · 2012-06-20, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by edgecrusherO0

I don't consider costume packs real DLC. Cosmetic changes aren't content and take almost no time to implement.

True, I don't see how they directly influenced the ending of ME3 either, it doesn't make sense for them to do so. But them making changes to the overall story of games makes total sense since they can focus test the hell out of stuff like that.

On a very general level I guess I could see it but that's not what were talking about here. In fact I don't even think they care so much about the story in particular just as you said the general overall aspect of the game and peoples reaction to it. Like I don't think they micro manage all that much. They get feedback from testers and the opinion of the developers and then give them very broad advice. People in this thread have alleged that EA is more or less responsible for ME3s ending.

**Stocking** · 2012-06-20, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by TonyIommi

You didn't know about Cerberus the first time either and that's really besides the point. You can accept that a man came back from the dead but not that he survived a fall from space. You can swallow that he was probably brain dead for awhile but they still managed to bring him back from the dead and not be a snivelling drooling moron but you can't accept that he fell from space and survived. Honestly why does him surviving the destruction of the citadel surprise you that much when he's survived the destruction of so much other crap (including the first normandy) in the past. He's Shepard. You can literally choose survivor as his origin.

The thing is, Shepards body at the start of ME2 is completely totalled, its wrecked. The possibility of Shepard surviving a fall from space is 0. He didnt even have a helmet. And he just wakes up like he was unconcious? Yea, thats not happening. It took Cerberus years to rebuild him using the best tech and scientists. Him surviving a fall from space like that is impossible. He would have suffocated in space and burned up in the atmosphere.

**Caiada** · 2012-06-20, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by Digglett

Doesn't show DLC.

Considering it's like, the only life simulator, there is literally nothing else. Of course it's going to get good reviews on that alone.

That isn't how reviews work.

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Originally Posted by Skelington

Review sites aren't very reliable. They get payed out the wazoo.

Disregarding obvious shills, shitty fan blogs, and other generally low-quality reviews, I'm sure at least a significant proportion are respectable. Destructoid, Edge, etc.

**Leonard McCoy** · 2012-06-20, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by pickles

The thing is, Shepards body at the start of ME2 is completely totalled, its wrecked. The possibility of Shepard surviving a fall from space is 0. He didnt even have a helmet. And he just wakes up like he was unconcious? Yea, thats not happening. It took Cerberus years to rebuild him using the best tech and scientists. Him surviving a fall from space like that is impossible. He would have suffocated in space and burned up in the atmosphere.

Returning from the dead is generally thought to be impossible as well or at least generally very implausible. Shepard surviving the fall is similarly implausible. Accepting one but not the other is very compromising IMO. If they concocted a way for him to live that made sense you would accept it as well. Or maybe not I don't know. People are nuts. I got break from school next week and I planned on going through all games again, I'll take a list of every implausible or flat out BS scenario that occurs in the games and then you tell me why it's so hard to believe shepard survived re entry.

**Kneegaplz** · 2012-06-20, 05:45 AM

It's so funny seeing people use DLC as an example for hating EA, when 90% of other game publishers do the exact same thing.

**Irony** · 2012-06-20, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by Kneegaplz

It's so funny seeing people use DLC as an example for hating EA, when 90% of other game publishers do the exact same thing.

Hell EA didn't even invent, or exploit it nearly as bad as THQ.

Honestly, THQ doesn't get enough grief, they're just as evil as EA, but they're bad at it. They're the new Acclaim.

**Digglett** · 2012-06-20, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by Irony

Yeah surprisingly that Wiki doesn't exist.

http://store.thesims3.com/ - This entirely.

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Downloadable_content

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Downloadable_Content

http://bf3blog.com/battlefield-3-dlc/

Not to mention, and this might be offtopic, but pretty much every MMO published by EA has failed due to them rushing shit out.

Originally Posted by Caiada

That isn't how reviews work.

It's a mediocre game at best, yet gets praised for being the only one of it's kind (which EA knows therfore exploits)

**Khanjin** · 2012-06-20, 05:48 AM

Good idea. Get EAs opinion on why people hate them.

/sarcasm

**IdTheDemon** · 2012-06-20, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by TonyIommi

My mistake I forgot about from the ashes. Al right that still doesn't invalidate them giving us two free multi player packs so far and a redone ending. Should they not be given some credit for that?

Sadly they aren't redoing the ending. They are just adding dialogue and additional scenes to justify their crap.

**Stocking** · 2012-06-20, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by TonyIommi

Returning from the dead is generally thought to be impossible as well or at least generally very implausible. Shepard surviving the fall is similarly implausible. Accepting one but not the other is very compromising IMO. If they concocted a way for him to live that made sense you would accept it as well. Or maybe not I don't know. People are nuts. I got break from school next week and I planned on going through all games again, I'll take a list of every implausible or flat out BS scenario that occurs in the games and then you tell me why it's so hard to believe shepard survived re entry.

Give me a logical explanation of how Shepard could have possibly survived falling from space.
You know how high up that is right?
He would have landed on concrete. You know how hard that is right?

**edgecrusher** · 2012-06-20, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by Kneegaplz

It's so funny seeing people use DLC as an example for hating EA, when 90% of other game publishers do the exact same thing.

And when other companies have shitty DLC practices (Capcom) they should, and sometimes do, get called out by gamers for it.

**Leonard McCoy** · 2012-06-20, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by Digglett

http://store.thesims3.com/ - This entirely.

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Downloadable_content

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Downloadable_Content

http://bf3blog.com/battlefield-3-dlc/

Not to mention, and this might be offtopic, but pretty much every MMO published by EA has failed due to them rushing shit out.

It's a mediocre game at best, yet gets praised for being the only one of it's kind (which EA knows therfore exploits)

What's funny is that DA:O and ME1 and ME2 all had dlc as well. It was good quality dlc to if you bothered to play it.

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