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    4pT13 Best Rotation For My Character ..

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    Here is both rotations , what should i use ?

    Rotation #1

    This first rotation is very easy to use, and requires very little setup. You need to create a macro for Mind Blast that looks like this:

    /cancelaura Mind Melt
    /cast Mind Blast


    The point of this is that if you Mind Spike and immediately Mind Blast right after, the Mind Spike eats the orbs and Mind Blast won't receieve any. The macro removes the instant cast nature of Mind Blast, and gives the shadowfiend some time to attack the target. So the rotation will look like this:

    Mind Flay x 2, clip both after 2 ticks
    Archangel
    Mind Blast
    Shadowfiend
    Mind Spike x 4-5 (use a 15s trinket just after the first or second mind spike)
    /cancelaura Mind Melt (this is a macro)
    Mind Blast
    Mind Spike x 3-4 (depends on lag/latency)
    Mind Flay (full 3 ticks) (shadowfiend will be ending around here
    /cancelaura Mind Melt
    Mind Blast
    (Archangel and spellpower proc ends here, refresh dots and continue normal rotation)

    It should end with 4-5 stacks of evangelism and allow you to move right into your normal rotation with no pause.

    Rotation #2

    This rotation is a bit harder to pull off than the above, but it has a few good benefits. It gets 3 Mind Blasts with 3 orbs off, and it seems to give more consistent dps. I also think this rotation works a little better with Dark Intent (ie it is the most friendly to warlocks). Note that this rotation does NOT use a macro for Mind Blast.

    Mind Flay x 2, clip both after 2 ticks
    Archangel
    Mind Blast
    Shadowfiend
    (pop spellpower trinket here)
    Mind Spike x 3
    Mind Flay (clip as soon as Mind Blast is available)
    Mind Blast (instant cast)
    Mind Spike x 3
    Mind Flay (clip as soon as Mind Blast is available)
    Mind Blast (instant cast)
    (archangel, spellpower trinket, and Shadowfiend ends here, you still have 3 orbs remaining)

    Resume dots and consume the remaining 3 orbs on your next Mind Blast.


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    If you can get a CoC+Will of Unbinding, I'd advise that and just roll with it. When I played shadow I always used the Mind Flay fillers because it's more DPS, as you have stacks of envanglism directly after your burn to boost your DoTs as you start dpsing again. Don't use the spell power on use trinket, it may burst high, but the constant dps for it is so low it's not even worth it, I honestly didn't even use it for spine and I was consistently in the top 3 on spine for tendon damage.

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    Mind Flay x 2, clip both after 2 ticks
    Mind Spike & Archangel
    Shadowfiend
    cancelaura Mind Melt & Mind Blast (pop spellpower trinket here)
    Mind Spike x 4
    Mind Flay (clip as soon as Mind Blast is available & 3 orbs)
    Mind Blast (instant cast)
    Mind Spike x 3
    Mind Flay (clip as soon as Mind Blast is available & 3 orbs)
    Mind Blast (instant cast)

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    Here's how I do it (on boss pull)

    - Potion
    - MFx2 (clip after 2nd tick)
    - Archangel
    - Mind Blast (always with /cancelaura)
    - Shadowfiend
    - Mind Spike until MB is off cooldown

    repeat
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    MB does more damage than MS - better to cast it with 3 orbs and higher crit chance

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    MF x2 with clipping
    Mindspike x2
    Trinket + Pot + shadowfiend
    Archangel
    Mindblast
    ~4 Mindspike
    Mindblast
    ~3 Mindspike
    Berserk
    Put all dots
    last Mindblast with 100%crit and AA

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    i don't have trinket nsj


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    Sorry. Then just without the trinket. It's still the best-feeling rotation.

    3 100%crit + 3-Orb Mindblasts and refreshing the dots with 5stacks and berserk while waiting for Mindblast. and you dont waste your last 3 orbs for a MS
    Last edited by nsj; 2012-06-25 at 02:50 PM.

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    nsj, an instant Mindblast after shadowfiend gets no orbs most of the time

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    no i do some mind flay so it flashes ^^^^^^


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nianif View Post
    nsj, an instant Mindblast after shadowfiend gets no orbs most of the time
    I use /cancelaura Mind Melt makro for this. Sorry didnt write it.

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    Yes, sorry - I should be able to see this but the "~4 Mindspike" confused me.

    The 6.5 sec between your first two Mindblasts is enough time for five MS with cancelaura and four without.

    I like your
    "Berserk
    Put all dots"

    Order should be VT, DP, SW:P if you play with Bottle.
    Last edited by Nianif; 2012-06-25 at 03:41 PM.

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    i play without bottle so you think its better to do VT, SW:P , DP


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    The 4pT13 sequence depends on some things - Heroism or bonus damage time from bosses like Hagara.

    But the sequence of nsj is good.

    I would also use VT, DP, SW:P without bottle - it's only more important with this trinket because in this order VT & DP will be affected.
    Last edited by Nianif; 2012-06-25 at 04:48 PM. Reason: I have to improve my english.... :/

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    I like to make sure I have 3 orbs,...then I pop DA (with 5 stacks of course) followed by a 3 orbed MB. Then I MS 3-4 times pop fiend and MB is off cd and timed pretty well with my fiends first hit, I then proceed to hit MB again. MS 3-4 times , flay for a tick or two to keep up Evangelism hit MB again,....then MS twice, flay and/or put up dots and use your last 3 orbed MB.

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    Actually I personally don't use the cancelaura macro myself, and instead I just cast a Mind Flay. With cancelaura macro the time between each Mind Blast hits is a minimum 6.5sec (cooldown) + 1.2sec (cast time) = 7.7sec, while using a Mind Flay (clipping after 2 ticks) after 4 spikes ensures the time between each MB hits stays at 6.5secs, as well as hitting with 3 orbs. And if for whatever reason I still don't have orbs after 2 ticks of Mind Flay, I would let it channel its full duration.

    To put it another way, the main purpose of a cancelaura macro is to allow 1 GCD gap time between the preceding Mind Spike and the subsequent Mind Blast so that the shadowfiend has time to gain 3 more orbs. And I simply chose that time to be spent on channeling MF rather than casting MB
    Last edited by zsun; 2012-06-26 at 12:33 PM.

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    In most situations it make sence to cast one or two (Tendons: three) MS before the first MB to use possible orbs and higher the crit chance of MB.

    If you do so the the cancelaura on the first MB make sence.
    Last edited by Nianif; 2012-06-26 at 12:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nianif View Post
    In most situations it make sence to cast one or two (Tendons: three) MS before the first MB to use possible orbs and higher the crit chance of MB.

    If you do so the the cancelaura on the first MB make sence.
    I'm currently uploading the way I do it, I tried different way and its what I found most comfortable.

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