Now, I don't want to come off as aggressive but seriously, who knows what exactly, at that age? You thought you knew how the world works when you were 15. How did that turn out for you?
If you get the same response, it's gotta stand for something, doesn't it?
If people don't want kids its really their choice and i couldnt care less!
But yes i am happy not everyone doesent want to have kids, there wouldnt be much people in about a 100 years :P
Im 23 years old myself
I do want kids myself, infact im preggers! If i'll be a good parent? i hope so, and i'll defenitly try, being a good parent doesent come before having children anyway. but i've learned a lot from my parents and being alive. i've also learned from my parents what i won't be like
I don't want kids cause I don't have the patience for it, they're annoying, expensive, and I simply don't want to raise a child in this world.
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also i did admit i had misconstrued your "not wanting children" a miscommunication there.
just because my opinions do not coincide with yours(and many others it seems) does not invalidate them.
@the apathetic / not caring part, you said that yourself. also anyones opinions who have varied from your own, you pretend don't matter at all, it seems that your mindset is "only my opinion matters" which is a part of the not caring / apathetic mindset. (complete indifference to others feelings, as evidenced to your replies here, and what you said to your parents, not caring about their opinions either, they raised you and you stomped on their hopes of having grandkids)
@who's hopes have you crushed? telling your parents flat out NO, instead of perhaps giving them hope that when their daughter grows up they can have grandkids.
also not caring about your parents feelings on the matter (you could approach the matter with them very differently)
if you do not want to have children, then don't, don't want to adopt, then don't..
what i have been saying isn't "go do this" it is...
make your parents feel better by telling them "when it is the right time / find the right man / may eventually adopt"
in the end you will do what you want... but please don't treat your parents that way.
give them some hope.
i'm just not sure if i am being clear enough or even getting through...
even if in your own heart you decide to never deal with having/adopting children....
don't tell your family that...trust me it hurts to know your genetic line is going to end with your only child, it is better to...
give a little white lie to make them feel better...
sigh... i hope you understand what i am trying to get across...
Last edited by Christan; 2012-06-25 at 07:40 PM.
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Well in my opinion... is OK to not have kids... Not everybody wants a kid..., personally i can't have a kid (biological) and i don't think i will be able to adopt one..., and i don't really think a lot about that..., and IMO the only one that's wrong is the people that's putting presure on you... If you say no... is NO!, there's nothing to talk :P
Note: I love kids... but well i won't die if i don't have one XD
I've pictured myself having a kid, doing dad stuff. I wont lie, it feels pretty good. Then one of my little sisters throws a tantrum and I think to myself, "man... this is totally not worth it". It takes all my willpower to not hit a child when they act like annoying little shits, so what I do is I just leave my dad's house and go home to my nice peace and quiet, where I don't have to deal with little kid bullshit.
I'm not saying I wont change my mind, but I never was much of a gambler, and having kids is a really big gamble. For the foreseeable future I think I'm going to have to go with childfree as well.
Indeed, I don't have to explain myself to you. But we are part of an open discussing and I have my standards so I felt would be nice of me. And once more, I don't want slaves, already had my littles cousins, nephews and nieces for that. I want my own children because that's something I value, I believe it is a great experience, and I want to teach them into this world, maybe they can be better than me, do better than me but I don't want them to be my legacy or whatever. I believe I can be a good parent, and that's what I am in for.
And you're right, a ton of people should never become parents, selfish people, uncaring people. But as someone who as of right now does not want kids because it's hard enough taking care of myself, I do not want to put a child in a life where they don't get everything they need and grow to be healthy. I constantly think if I ever do have kids what morals I would teach them and how I could shape their lives to be good people (that seems rewarding on it's own), especially after seeing terrible things some kids are taught, by terrible parents.
But the will to shape a child's life who in return will bring me joy of being a parent and watching them grow is not strong enough to overcome the difficulties I am certain they will endure. With my uncertainty of being able to afford to take care of them, the possible fact that their father will ditch us and force them to grow up with an overworked mom. If I for 120% sure I cannot give another living being the care they deserve, then I will not undertake the responsibility, and this means I will never be ready. So to that degree I think you are wrong.
But again congrats. I hope you and your wife have a healthy baby.
Last edited by galaxiah; 2012-06-25 at 07:49 PM.
I'm 21 and I don't want kids. Ever. It's just my own choice. I really like playing with kids and teaching them new things but I don't want any of my own.
Gladly I found a girl that thinks the same way.
I have two things in mind for this discussion.
1) I wouldn't like to spend half of my life raising kids.
2) However I tend to see more and more and MORE stupid kids around novadays and feel like at least I should have one and raise it to be normal. Becasue normal seems to become extinct and I think I could do this raising up better.
But I don't even have a girlfriend at 24 and find it hard to get one whose mentality matches mine. I may stick with option 1 for now.
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Seriosly, what you're trying to say is just outright ridiculous. You shouldn't give people false hope like that.
Why stop at that? why not just stop telling people the risks of a necessary operation? We don't want them to go in a operation thinking they will die? now do we?
Also I keep seeing population issues being addressed as a reason though in the near future we may have a serious population decline problem. The average child per woman in the earlier part of the century was 4-5 children. As nations and population become more advanced the women start to make child bearing a non priority as they do not need children to help out any more and it becomes a second objective to job, travel and other assorted options. The average child per woman is down to 2.5. At 2.1 births per woman deaths will start to overtake births and most populace projection map this to happen in the next 30 to 40 years. Right now we are close to a platue with deaths versus births with births just eeking it out. Most of Europe is already in decline along with Japan and some other countries. America always high on birthrates is also pretty close to being in decline. The 3rd world countries as they are called are currently keeping the number up, but those should swing around soon with brith control and economic conditions changing for those nations.
Last edited by Sauril; 2012-06-25 at 09:10 PM.
I think you're inventing drama where this is none. You don't want kids? Fine! Who cares? Don't have kids.