Release 21. August

[Marverick66]

No, they need to release before GW2 launches. You're assuming a person playing GW2 will just up and leave within a few weeks after GW2's launch.

I've played GW2 and it's hands down the toughest competition WOW's faced. If it launches before MOP, it will take subs which otherwise would be playing MOP. Not saying it will kill WOW. But, it definitely could shave off a few hundred thousand subs and stop people who've already unsubbed from returning(which normally happens every xpac) for MOP.

Its not, it can't compare to WoW because WoW is focused on endgame while GW2 is focused on lvl'ing/PvP

[PizzaSHARK]

Actually GW2 developers announced that they are not aiming to compete with WoW. Besides, its a F2P game after your purchase it (no sub) so I cant even see "major" competition. People will buy it just like they bought any other Video Game and continue to play WoW in the background. Or the other way around?

The rub is going to come when you can only afford to buy GW2 or MoP. The competition's over initial box sales, not long-term commitment (at least, not on GW2's side.)

GW2 will probably cost about $60, MoP will probably cost about $40. Add in $15 for a month's sub time for returning players and you're at about the same price point.

Not everyone's going to have $120 to spend in a single month, or even a single season.

[Babaganouch]

Like I said in a previous thread, it's June 30th, tomorrow.

[Twinkletaes]

Problem is Blizzard will need to think about giving the retailers plenty time to prepare for their game release. I think a 9/11 or 9/18 date is more likely than any sooner. Yes GW2 is out before MoP this way but as much as they are both MMO's they are two completely different games. One is also free while the other has a sub. Not everyone will quit wow for it, and some people will play both (like myself). Sure its supposed to be a competitive market when it comes to MMO games but Blizzard still manages to wipe the floor year in and year out regardless of what comes along.

[Primernova]

The rub is going to come when you can only afford to buy GW2 or MoP. The competition's over initial box sales, not long-term commitment (at least, not on GW2's side.)

GW2 will probably cost about $60, MoP will probably cost about $40. Add in $15 for a month's sub time for returning players and you're at about the same price point.

Not everyone's going to have $120 to spend in a single month, or even a single season.

I can afford both boxes and several for poor IRL friends, which I have done in the past with many games. None of them have wanted a WoW Xpac since TBC... I bought LK and Cata for close family but it's not in the numbers for MoP. Not that I don't like pandas, farmville or pokemon, I actually love those additions, if they were in, "real WoW" not the hu$k that it is now.

[Zaelsino]

Use this thread for release date speculation please: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...d-release-date