1. #2861
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    they should really spend more time fixing most if not all melee builds for being crap, at high(er) maps especially

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    Quote Originally Posted by Protoman View Post
    Is this game actually good?
    Well, yea. Though it is a niche game in a niche genre. POE aims for a very hardcore, min/max audience that has a high interest in grinding for years on end.

    It's not nearly as accessible as other ARPGs. The game can be rather unfriendly and punishing to player ignorance. And the developers are fine with that to a point.

    what aspects do you like about PoE and what makes it stand out compared to D3?
    - Players can make wrong or sub optimal choices which ruin their efforts in the long and short term (this is the biggest and most important distinction)
    - Modular class system
    - Modular skill system
    - Barter economy
    - Seasonal Hardcore races
    - Non destructive Hardcore mode
    - Cosmetic skill and character skins
    - Cash shop
    - Free to play

    Those are pretty distinct from D3.

    I enjoy that POE is very complex in terms of mechanics and value assessment.

    For example, above a user asked how to approach loot in POE. The answer to that in D3 is quite clear-- get what is worth the most gold. In POE the answer is more along the lines of "depends".

    Most of all I enjoy the "create your own class" aspect of Path of Exile. I personally dislike game systems with singular or linear class/role choices. Being a Witch that wields a two handed sword and summons undead while wearing heavy armor is a neat concept. That you can actually pull it off in Path of Exile in practice is marvelous.

    Also, whats a good starter class?
    Templar.

    what build do you suggest for Templar like weapons and stuff?
    Elemental bow Templar.

    they should really spend more time fixing most if not all melee builds for being crap, at high(er) maps especially
    Melee builds are viable in maps.

    I have done it before and my guild mates do it now. Melee is more difficult, but not "crap".

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    Kripp put up an announcment vid for a new PoE build site:


    http://www.exilepro.com/builds

    Looks pretty cool, and the guides are pretty indepth. Not many up at the moment, but he says they are going to have more over time.
    Last edited by Grizzly Willy; 2013-03-03 at 11:27 PM.

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    Saw on reddit this morning. Looks great actually. Very slick site.

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    Top 10 Ladder nanananaa in scrucore :O however my entire crew is... racing for a week so I can't really do anything FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK lol

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    Build a char that can handle stuff on its own then :P

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    I can destroy everything solo my gear is all out GG Destroyed meaning I'm a god in that game however YOU CAN'T solo if you don't have the maps to do so because my ''Leader'' has them and he and my other crew is all out racing I mean cmon here I'll brag

    6L everything
    20% gems everything
    Perfect resist
    Perfect health
    Perfect gear
    Top 10 ladder Lols
    DESTROYED o_o

    Arg this sucks I can't level without my group =/ like all I'm doing is trading... for like 6 hours now -.- and don't ask me to level in other groups because there's non ZERO out there I'll line this up for you in terms of how map experience as a level 89 mind you
    66: Not even 0.1% exp
    67: Same
    68: 40 of these make 0.1%
    69: Aprox 34
    70: and I'm sure you get to the point

    Everyone is racing for 1 week

    You know how painful it is to level and how terrible it is doing this? I'm crippled without my group Q_Q

    You can not level in this game at high levels without a group and the RNG of the gods of high level maps is all I'm going to say and the only thing that is flawed. I hate grouping especially when you have no choice to do it

    Q_q
    Last edited by N-aix; 2013-03-04 at 01:17 PM.

  8. #2868
    Quote Originally Posted by I-NO View Post
    You can not level in this game at high levels without a group and the RNG of the gods of high level maps is all I'm going to say and the only thing that is flawed. I hate grouping especially when you have no choice to do it

    Q_q
    I'm 77 and have not group a a single time so far outside of trading, I generate around the same amount of maps as I use and my highest currency used to roll maps is an alch...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redblade View Post
    I'm 77 and have not group a a single time so far outside of trading, I generate around the same amount of maps as I use and my highest currency used to roll maps is an alch...
    Do not be foolish Alyssa! Being 77 is the same as a lowbie technically. HIGH level maps do not F around in dropping they are annoying as soon as you get to around 85 you will understand my frustration. 66s to 73 ahahaha those are joke we have like 99999999999999 of those but the others barely a stalk full 3-5 around there then we're back to square 1 as a group GROUP ._.

    Losing my sanity because I can't level without them =/

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    Oh forgot to mention, I died in HC last night in the Warehouse Sewers Merc. Huge pack of Discharge zombies and those frog things. Nothing dramatic- just didn't get out of danger as fast I should have. QQ

    Fairly simple bow Marauder; build.

    Was fun for a bit.

  11. #2871
    Quote Originally Posted by I-NO View Post
    Do not be foolish Alyssa! Being 77 is the same as a lowbie technically. HIGH level maps do not F around in dropping they are annoying as soon as you get to around 85 you will understand my frustration. 66s to 73 ahahaha those are joke we have like 99999999999999 of those but the others barely a stalk full 3-5 around there then we're back to square 1 as a group GROUP ._.

    Losing my sanity because I can't level without them =/
    So you're trying to claim that the map drop ratios are worse at higher levels? I somehow doubt that, the only real complaint I can see is that there isn't higher level maps but that's another matter and has nothing to do with drop rates nor being forced to have a group, the latter I hope I disproved already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redblade View Post
    So you're trying to claim that the map drop ratios are worse at higher levels? I somehow doubt that, the only real complaint I can see is that there isn't higher level maps but that's another matter and has nothing to do with drop rates nor being forced to have a group, the latter I hope I disproved already.
    Yes I'm claiming that as is other HC players ( HC HC ) and SC wise they all agree finding 74+ Maps is nearly gouging your eyes out once more it's dumb as hell get to this level get to the high level maps and you will feel the RNG gripping your 'Bad word'' here hell I talked to the main #1 guy in HC and you know what he does? SPAM 70s because he can't find 74+ maps because oh I don't know 77s dropping 66s yada yada ''Lets just say I'm losing my grip on reality 0.2% exp every 50 maps?''

    Hell go to the their forums right now It's riddled with the map thing
    Last edited by N-aix; 2013-03-05 at 07:14 AM.

  13. #2873
    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    Oh forgot to mention, I died in HC last night in the Warehouse Sewers Merc. Huge pack of Discharge zombies and those frog things. Nothing dramatic- just didn't get out of danger as fast I should have. QQ

    Fairly simple bow Marauder; build.

    Was fun for a bit.
    That sux, hate the sewers (basically all mobs) and marketplace (the horrors of the bleed), at least you died to your own faults and not some lame desync that you had no control over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-NO View Post
    Yes I'm claiming that as is other HC players ( HC HC ) and SC wise they all agree finding 74+ Maps is nearly gouging your eyes out once more it's dumb as hell get to this level get to the high level maps and you will feel the RNG gripping your 'Bad word'' here hell I talked to the main #1 guy in HC and you know what he does? SPAM 70s because he can't find 74+ maps because oh I don't know 77s dropping 66s yada yada ''Lets just say I'm losing my grip on reality 0.2% exp every 50 maps?''

    Hell go to the their forums right now It's riddled with the map thing
    The core of the issue is still the fact that there is no maps beyond level 77, it has nothing to do with drop rates. It's simply based on what level mob drops the map and as the highest level mob you will encounter is 79 the pool of mobs that can drop 77 maps is smaller based on your normal map span being +-3, hence when you get to 77+ it's only -3 so you halved your range of potential drop places.

    So again, it has nothing to do with being forced to have a group nor does it have to do with the actual drop rates but instead is an issue with the current design where maps only go as high as 77. If you are to complain at least complain about the actual issue.

    Complaining about the wrong thing only leads to the wrong solutions, just look at D3. People there complained about drop ratios, Blizzard changed them, people complained that loot as horrible so Blizzard gave everyone more MF by default, people complained that loot sucked and now they had to pick up to much of it so now Blizzard is looking at ways to make loot matter more to be able to reduce the drop rates...
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    I thought this video of Kripparian was quite useful, explaining on how to deal with maps.
    I'm level 73 now on my shadow. Lvl 69 maps and up I always try to make rare with good mods, just to increase the quantity so much that I'm almost guaranteed map drops. Of course they're not always of a good level, but so far I've only been building up my amount of maps.

    You're complaining that you need to do 10000000000 million lvl 66 maps. Well...doing them gives you chances at lvl 69 maps, which gives you chances at higher level maps. So the fact that they don't give exp shouldn't be a reason not to do them.

  15. #2875
    I found that being a cheapskate with lower level works just fine if you are willing to do annoying curse rolls as they bump quantity by a fair bit.
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  16. #2876
    A guy in globalchat mentioned that your characters will be saved after beta is done. Is this true?

  17. #2877
    Quote Originally Posted by AcrobaticMegalodon View Post
    A guy in globalchat mentioned that your characters will be saved after beta is done. Is this true?
    The game is released, the open beta is a version of soft release and as such won't be wiped ever again.
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  18. #2878
    Quote Originally Posted by I-NO View Post
    I can destroy everything solo my gear is all out GG Destroyed meaning I'm a god in that game however YOU CAN'T solo if you don't have the maps to do so because my ''Leader'' has them and he and my other crew is all out racing I mean cmon here I'll brag

    6L everything
    20% gems everything
    Perfect resist
    Perfect health
    Perfect gear
    Top 10 ladder Lols
    DESTROYED o_o

    Arg this sucks I can't level without my group =/ like all I'm doing is trading... for like 6 hours now -.- and don't ask me to level in other groups because there's non ZERO out there I'll line this up for you in terms of how map experience as a level 89 mind you
    66: Not even 0.1% exp
    67: Same
    68: 40 of these make 0.1%
    69: Aprox 34
    70: and I'm sure you get to the point

    Everyone is racing for 1 week

    You know how painful it is to level and how terrible it is doing this? I'm crippled without my group Q_Q

    You can not level in this game at high levels without a group and the RNG of the gods of high level maps is all I'm going to say and the only thing that is flawed. I hate grouping especially when you have no choice to do it

    Q_q
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  19. #2879
    Quote Originally Posted by Redblade View Post
    The game is released, the open beta is a version of soft release and as such won't be wiped ever again.
    Ah ok I see, thanks.

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    Just been playing this with my boyfriend for a couple of hours. Seems ok for a free game. One thing im really not sure about is that you cant full respec, i guess i can understand why some hardcore players might like this but personally it just makes me not want to experiment with different builds :\. Not complaining, just i guess im not the intended audience, glad i realised before i spent too much time on it.

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