My thoughts would be that after a certain, uh, "plateau" lets call it; haste's value decreases somewhat "exponentially", dependant on your current value. Other than of course haste proc/on-use trinkets and maybe a specific weapon, don't other variables come into play here?
Last edited by Saferis; 2012-11-21 at 11:11 PM.
was wondering since the start of t14 since haste has such value over str isnt it worth considering using tier shoulders and either nullification greathelm or the legs from will of the emperor even if they are lower ilvl but higher haste value in our bis list?
Does anyone have a character profile with bis gear and reforge just to see the stats thanks
i suggest using Tier shoulders IF you own a Heroic Kings' guard chestplate. You should be able to get all heroic items except H:E: neck, Dread shadow ring, H:T15Helm, H:T15 Shoulders and hit overcapping should not be an issue even for draenei.
When you decide to take the Dread ring and Heroic Tier helm is when you need to be ready to swap to misshaped / H:T15 Chestplate.
Also sidenote doing some rough napkin math of the stats... more specifically HIT items will gain with the +8 ilvl VP upgrade system. For draenei atleast you should be fine taking all normal items on list + swapping everspark H elite neck for congealed neck off Garalon + 180 Crit to cloak or if tailor just enjoy that.
This pretty much leaves you at less then .1 over hit which is fairly easy to ignore considering how bloating stats are currently.
Non draenei are perfectly fine taking H everspark and turning it into a 524 item. You might need to replace a lightning jade in the assault belt with a quick suns if overcapping enough that most of the hit is wasted. This is factoring in the VP upgrade system obviously.
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1294 str , 20413 wpn damage
1223 str, 19,303 wpn damage
+ 500 str gem
Shin'ka +429str VS Starshatter +1,110 wpn damage
Also VP upgrade that shit in 5.1 and it will almost be 21900-22k top end. mmmmm delicious.
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If it's not the weapon it's likely the lack of 4set.
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So I currently have Normal Darkmist Vortex, Normal Lei Shin's Orders and Relic of Xuen, which ones would be better to use or would it have to be fight specific or just personal preference? I'm leaning more towards Darkmist Vortex and Relic of Xuen, just because the haste proc just seems really powerful atm, but I would love to hear your guys' opinion/advice on this.
I can't post a link to my armory so, just look me up, Mel on Mug'thol-US
Lei Shin's > all for ret. Take Lei Shin and you really ought to sim Vortex/Xuen since they are really close.
Thanks for making another one of these threads Anaxie some seriously great stuff.
This is my first tier playing as Ret I'm holding my own in the raids I've done. I'd like to improve my damage and I'm curious if the lfr tier helm and chest should be used over my current items to obtain 4-set asap or should I wait until I get the normal versions? I'd lose a lot of haste which I currently don't even have much of right now since I'm in a rather slow progression guild. My armory is in my signature.
Any help is appreciated!
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Balhale, is aoe supported in simulationcraft?
I imported my character (did not respec/retalent for aoe), changed number of enemies and edited priorities list (Crusader Strike -> Hammer of the righteous, Templar's Verdict -> Divine Storm) and got following results:
edit: significantly different results with 100 seconds fight length, as anaxie predicted.
Last edited by Pinkcrusader; 2012-11-22 at 01:05 PM.
So simcraft has been telling me that crit is currently a tenth or two of a point ahead of mastery for my weights right now, and that its just barely worse than haste (1.26 haste vs 1.22 crit). Anyone else have this come up, and is there any reason I should pursue such a course (which also includes gemming for strength again, as its at like 3.0 compared to 1.26 haste), or ignore it and go with haste gemming and mastery > crit?
Any opinions on what I should upgrade next with VPs, choice is pretty much between:
My armory link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...oxeneta/simple
Yeah I saw that Kaya, gratz on Lei Shi kill tho:P I'm using the normal one atm, doesn't seem to be a big difference between it and DMC card. Then again I don't have 4 set yet and with a bit of CD allignment I assume the trinket off Lei Shi will pull ahead.
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Very useful thread, thanks a lot.
So we killed the windlord again and i had a bug there i used my macro für Light's Hammer and the whole fight long i only had damage from 3 use of it. It happens that when i use it there is no ring and it has CD, but i can't see any damage incomeing and looking at recount says the same: only 2m damage cause of it
This is my macro:
/use White Tiger Gauntlets
/cast Light's Hammer
Maybe its because i use the ingi, gloves with it? Just a site note: 4er Bonus, yay D: