Anaxie's Totally Magnificent ToT Retribution T15 BiS & Theorycraft

**Zabyt** · 2012-11-26, 10:53 PM

You sure it landed? There's still a bug that when you throw it doesn't land but goes on cd.

**W1shm4ster** · 2012-11-27, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Zabyt

You sure it landed? There's still a bug that when you throw it doesn't land but goes on cd.

Well, i don't think it landed, since i only got CD on it but no ring to throw it.

Edit: It also happens to my ES Macro (the same like the other one) can it be if you press another skill to fast he just cancel it in an instant? Just a feeling i got..

Edit2: Problem solved...too simple...and too fail >.>

**Charleslol** · 2012-11-28, 01:38 AM

Is the Garalon neck better than the heroic elite neck with the upgrade system?

**Bonkura** · 2012-11-28, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by Charleslol

Is the Garalon neck better than the heroic elite neck with the upgrade system?

No guild will ever kill Protectors on elite mode. It's impossible.

**Reith** · 2012-11-28, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by Bonkura

No guild will ever kill Protectors on elite mode. It's impossible.

Maybe it's just NEARLY impossible...? or maybe Blizzard wants to keep the people who are progressed 100% trying to kill that one fight for half of the tier. Meh.

I got lucky enough to get LFR tier chest and tier shoulders, but when we killed wind lord, not a single conq glove token drops and only got gold from the Charm. So lame.

**Killmour** · 2012-11-28, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Bonkura

No guild will ever kill Protectors on elite mode. It's impossible.

Some people have the neck though :P

**yeto** · 2012-11-28, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Killmour

Some people have the neck though :P

the normal elite yes, the heroic elite - no

**Butosai** · 2012-11-28, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by yeto

the normal elite yes, the heroic elite - no

there was a bug first week where u killed it normal elite and token rewards would give u heroic elite gear.

**Megraam** · 2012-11-28, 06:12 PM

Pre-pull SW->HA macro has been ninja-fixed. Now unlearning SW with wings active just removes your wing buff leaving you with cd.

**Reith** · 2012-11-28, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Megraam

Pre-pull SW->HA macro has been ninja-fixed.

yeah.. I hated doing it anyway, having to reload my ui every pull. At least with T11 switch I don't have to reload my ui.

**Zabyt** · 2012-11-28, 07:45 PM

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=134735/battle-fatigue

There's our ms , along with everyone else ..

**Reith** · 2012-11-28, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Zabyt

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=134735/battle-fatigue

There's our ms , along with everyone else ..

Probably stacks with MS...

**Killmour** · 2012-11-29, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by yeto

the normal elite yes, the heroic elite - no

I have it, so no.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...illmour/simple

**Bonkura** · 2012-11-29, 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by Killmour

I have it, so no.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...illmour/simple

I hope they remove it for you.

**Riptide** · 2012-11-29, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by Bonkura

No guild will ever kill Protectors on elite mode. It's impossible.

You do realize if it's not killable they will make it killable. In addition to that you can expect to see the 5% buff/debuff w/e it is in the coming weeks. So yes, people will have the neck on top of those that do now. I wouldn't be surprised to see you get it.

**Killmour** · 2012-11-29, 02:14 AM

Originally Posted by Bonkura

I hope they remove it for you.

Are you just an angry child? Grow up.

The question still stands, is it worth using with the upgrade system, It's like 50~ str for something like 50-100 wasted stats I think in the end? I have no idea.

**Bonkura** · 2012-11-29, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by Riptide

You do realize if it's not killable they will make it killable. In addition to that you can expect to see the 5% buff/debuff w/e it is in the coming weeks. So yes, people will have the neck on top of those that do now. I wouldn't be surprised to see you get it.

I just found it funny that he even asked since as how the fight is now people can only dream about getting it. In 10-man the debuff will tick for 180k on everyone in the last phase as well as how it will be super hard to handle the stacks you get from the adds and moving the raid along to make sure noone explodes. This on top of the ridiculous DPS requirements. But yeah, they are obviously gonna nerf it eventually.

Originally Posted by Killmour

Are you just an angry child? Grow up.

What? Do you think you deserve to keep it? Why would I accept people to get an edge from something that was clearlay a bug that shouldn't have happened?

Anyway, did you guys come to any conclusion whether we DS or TV on 2 targets with the 2 piece set bonus?

**Zabyt** · 2012-11-29, 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by Killmour

Are you just an angry child? Grow up.

You did kinda get an item that was not supposed to drop for you.. so yeah it's not weird he says that.
They could give everyone the normal elites instead and removing those hc ones :/

**anaxie** · 2012-11-29, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by Charleslol

Is the Garalon neck better than the heroic elite neck with the upgrade system?

in 100% bis and +upgrade you are very likely unable to use the H:elite neck.

Draenei I'm 100% sure it's unuseable.

It really depends on how much hit rating is wasted overcap 1% over is way too much.

---------- Post added 2012-11-29 at 08:37 AM ----------

Originally Posted by Killmour

Are you just an angry child? Grow up.

The question still stands, is it worth using with the upgrade system, It's like 50~ str for something like 50-100 wasted stats I think in the end? I have no idea.

I need to see all the 2/2 items to make a proper guess on a refined bis set. If all the expertise is useable. which the neck SHOULD have more of + Str then the overcap 1% may not even matter.

Also Darkmist normal might not be so bad with our new 2 sec CD. Relic is a terrible +upgrade item like +200 str total on proc for 2/2 while orders gains 400 for a longer duration. Kay.

**Divintia** · 2012-11-29, 02:21 PM

Hey guys i recently got Bracers of Defiled Earth (Elite) and was wondering if i should use it over Bonded Soul Bracers (RF). I'm alittle worried about using defiled earth because i'd be losing more haste and i recently got 2 peices of tier so my haste is low as it is, would end up going down to 7,500 haste.

What do you guys think? Divintia is my name on armory, couldn't post a link.

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