1. #881
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    range him? i didn't range him down you shouldn't need to either.

    Yeah if we don't die to mass kick misses all night GG.
    I can't lev over the beams remember :P

    (I mean during cluster-fuck time)

  2. #882
    Quote Originally Posted by Killmour View Post
    Apparently levitate does work, but only on the side's of the room for horde, there is a raised grate. Useless for melee still, but whatever.

    Edit: I've gotten all the way to full enrage a few times, just need decent rng and full buffs so I can range him the last 20 or so percent, lol.

    Edit: Also Anaxie, you will enjoy Amber Shaper, the dps at the end is hilarious.
    If you seriously want to try ranged attacks you should ask for symbiosis from a druid. I've been playing around with censure/wrath single target and can pull around 70-75k on a full fight in raid (around 10-15k less than I do with normal rotation). It's pretty sick.

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    If your going to wrath himdown you should blow cds at start and then wrath from the caster safestop at 30% imo. prolly is best option.
    I rekilled distruptron once n zenshar / epicus atleast 3-4 times. 0 rekills on manastorm since i get random ques and his dps rng check and all is freaking LOL. missing 1 major buff = GG

    Also @ killmour almost to P3 amber clean in a single night. Gotta stop stacks droppin and 11/16 25inc prolly wednesdayish depending on 4/6 clear time. Skippin msv now from short raid week, thank god our entire melee roster got is starshat, elegs, and orders.

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    Does anyone know HOW THE HELL? amber monstrocity dies in 5 seconds?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_6rBLW3yMM
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  4. #884
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    [/COLOR]Does anyone know HOW THE HELL? amber monstrocity dies in 5 seconds?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_6rBLW3yMM
    That video was before the hotfix for fire mages

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightG View Post
    That video was before the hotfix for fire mages
    Those mages are peaking nearly 600k......... HALFWAY THROUGH THE FIGHT????

  6. #886
    Combustion was bugged when placed at Amber Monstrocity. It was fixed soon.

  7. #887
    Quote Originally Posted by Megraam View Post
    Combustion was bugged when placed at Amber Monstrocity. It was fixed soon.
    The bug fixed they put in for Garalon cleave damage off legs, ending up screwing Amber fight. what ^ said is the short verion. Was hotfixed the day after or so

  8. #888
    Just ran all the bis gear through wowreforge while changing the values so they are upgraded for the purpose of seeing the ratings, non-Draenei will want to drop the lightning gem in the belt. At that point you would be 11 over hit cap and 1 over exp cap.


    Stats for Horde with everspark: 2969 crit, 2551 exp, 9310 haste, 2561 hit, 5080 mastery.

    Stats for Draenei with congealed: 3867 crit, 2552 exp, 9277 haste, 2213 hit, 4469 mastery.

    And Draenei with everspark: 3209 crit, 2551 exp, 9258 haste, 2373 hit, 5080 mastery.(can change helm gem to Str/stam to only be 3 over hit cap)


    So for Draenei using ever spark is -658 crit, -19 haste, +611 mastery, +56 strength. (And if you swap your helm gem to str/stam its 80str for 160haste and 160hit that is unused).

    I'll recheck my math again later, but I'm pretty sure it is correct. It seems like it will be better for everyone to use the everspark neck eventually when its obtainable.

  9. #889
    Quote Originally Posted by Saferis View Post
    I do not recall that being possible in cata (Before 5.0). From my recollection, if you tried to overwrite an inquisition in cata with a less powerful one (duration wise) an error message would pop up saying "A more powerful spell is already active". Blizzard decided to troll us i guess.
    It was possible in Cata.

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    Hey... I feng dropped this one yesterday - http://www.wowhead.com/item=87026 and I currently have http://www.wowhead.com/item=86154 - is the 38 str worth loosing the haste?
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    "you need to understand that my computer and i have a relationship that was here before i met you, and will be here long after we break up. if i could have sex with the CD-rom drive, you would be irrelevant. just so we're clear on this"

  11. #891
    So I'm up to 9.2k haste and I simmed to see my stat weights and got:

    Strength: 3.43
    Haste: 1.48
    Mastery: 1.39
    Crit: 1.27
    (This was over 50k iterations)

    I'm starting to believe there is a point in which we should be gemming strength again.
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  12. #892
    Simcraft has been saying the same for me, i think since i got 2set (was pretty close to being 2haste=1str at that point), now with 4 set (i493) im seeing similar results in simc to you
    Str-3.39
    Haste-1.55
    Mastery-1.38
    Crit-1.34

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  13. #893
    Simcraft has been doing that at 9.2k haste for a while now, but if you sim with the new values, it will put haste ahead again.

  14. #894
    So.. this game really doesn't want me to get 4-set. I've got LFR tier shoulders and normal tier legs equipped (and I've gotten TWO of those from Sha), LFR tier chest available when I get that 4th tier piece - either gloves or helmet but REALLY prefer the gloves - but I still haven't seen a single damn tier glove token drop from ANYWHERE after killing Sha almost every week since launch and using a charm on him every time, having killed Wind Lord on regular and LFR multiple times and using a charm on normal Wind Lord every single time.

    Meh, I had to vent. RNG sucks major donkey balls.

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightG View Post
    Simcraft has been doing that at 9.2k haste for a while now, but if you sim with the new values, it will put haste ahead again.
    How do you sim with new values? You mean with the new release that's come out or.. what?

  15. #895
    Quote Originally Posted by StraightG View Post
    Simcraft has been doing that at 9.2k haste for a while now, but if you sim with the new values, it will put haste ahead again.
    my figures were running 510-5 which was the latest as of today, @ 8823 haste

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  16. #896
    I noticed while simming that gemming strength after 20% haste(7500-8000 I think?) is better in normal/lfr gear, I haven't checked with heroic gear. But I bet 25% in full heroic gear is what we should be aiming for.

    Have you seen the discussion over at ej.
    prioritizing judgment over crusader/hotr(2 targets) if the target has < 20% health or you have aw up is a dps increase
    hotr mathed out to be better at 2+ targets
    hotr does more damage than exo/how at 5 targets, 4 targets in half heroic gear~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killmour View Post
    Just ran all the bis gear through wowreforge while changing the values so they are upgraded for the purpose of seeing the ratings, non-Draenei will want to drop the lightning gem in the belt. At that point you would be 11 over hit cap and 1 over exp cap.


    Stats for Horde with everspark: 2969 crit, 2551 exp, 9310 haste, 2561 hit, 5080 mastery.

    Stats for Draenei with congealed: 3867 crit, 2552 exp, 9277 haste, 2213 hit, 4469 mastery.

    And Draenei with everspark: 3209 crit, 2551 exp, 9258 haste, 2373 hit, 5080 mastery.(can change helm gem to Str/stam to only be 3 over hit cap)


    So for Draenei using ever spark is -658 crit, -19 haste, +611 mastery, +56 strength. (And if you swap your helm gem to str/stam its 80str for 160haste and 160hit that is unused).

    I'll recheck my math again later, but I'm pretty sure it is correct. It seems like it will be better for everyone to use the everspark neck eventually when its obtainable.
    Good to know. had a feeling the other budget stats may be stronger then the wasted hit.
    Have you tried Yellow gem in the belt and ignore socket bonus and keep jade in helm? Should be a larger stats / dps gain. Unless str is simming above haste at 21%

    You shouldn't break 22% haste in BIS so i think the gemming issue will solve itself. This tier atleast.
    Last edited by anaxie; 2012-12-06 at 10:40 PM.

  18. #898
    Quote Originally Posted by Dexyn View Post
    I see a couple posts mentioning that they are simming Mastery > Crit, but whenever I run Simcraft I am getting Crit > Mastery.
    My current weights:
    WDPS: 4.97
    Str: 3.11
    Haste: 1.56
    Crit: 1.20
    Mastery: 1.16

    I've no clue what would make such a difference for others.
    Higher weapon damage means higher CS/TV/HOTR/DS + mastery damage, higher auto-attack damage and a little higher seal damage. Weapon damage does nothing for anything else, so it's logical that mastery would pull ahead eventually with a good-enough weapon.

  19. #899
    Quote Originally Posted by Reith View Post
    So.. this game really doesn't want me to get 4-set. I've got LFR tier shoulders and normal tier legs equipped (and I've gotten TWO of those from Sha), LFR tier chest available when I get that 4th tier piece - either gloves or helmet but REALLY prefer the gloves - but I still haven't seen a single damn tier glove token drop from ANYWHERE after killing Sha almost every week since launch and using a charm on him every time, having killed Wind Lord on regular and LFR multiple times and using a charm on normal Wind Lord every single time.

    Meh, I had to vent. RNG sucks major donkey balls.
    Seeing this just makes me pissed. Stop complaining. Please.


    Has the value of 2 haste vs 1 str actually been better for anyone so far? I don't understand why people are complaining about this either. I've seen 1 str > 2 haste in SimCraft for me as well as better geared rets ever since release.
    Last edited by Krekko; 2012-12-07 at 03:11 PM.

  20. #900
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonkura View Post
    Seeing this just makes me pissed. Stop complaining. Please.
    Yeah it could be worse I guess but my guild has only killed 2 heroic bosses, so there's also that..

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