1. #921
    Quote Originally Posted by Retfoo View Post
    Been a while since i started to take raiding seriously and im getting back into it just wondering if the prot 4set t11 swap still works? appologies if this topic has been covered. Also sitting on 2set atm with 22% haste wondering if after 4set and appropriate gear levels of static haste from gear it would be best to drop whatever possible into mastery assuming about 24-25% haste through gear/gemming without dropping too much str? any and all criticism welcome too only makes me better if its constructive. Cant link my armory but its Jüdge on US black dragonflight alt code for U is 0252 and my wrists shoulders weapon and "sigh" raid finder orders are upgraded.
    Prot T11 switch still works.

  2. #922
    Upgraded neck to heroic Garalon neck so I dropped to 9k haste. Still seeing 1 Str>2 Haste
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%B9ne/advanced


  3. #923
    I'm having difficulties deciding which item to upgrade. Is it worth it to upgrade my axe for progression sake knowing a H elegon sword may drop this week?

    Or would it be a good idea to save the upgrade for later progression, which will gets a lot more difficult I hear.

    I can't find a heroic item that I own that I can't replace fairly soon.

    Also, do you guys think it would be a good idea to have a thread just to discuss/ask questions of what the best item upgrade would be?

    * seems like helmet may be a excellent choice, I won't be replacing that for an extremely long time, will I?
    Last edited by rahkarn; 2012-12-14 at 02:33 AM.

  4. #924
    Quote Originally Posted by rahkarn View Post
    I'm having difficulties deciding which item to upgrade. Is it worth it to upgrade my axe for progression sake knowing a H elegon sword may drop this week?
    1. Never expect anything to drop.
    2. If you're in a progress guild it's your responsiblity to maximize your character before each raid.

    Hope this helps.

  5. #925
    ... but still i would wait to kill elegon 1. being one of the easiest hc boss. With current gears it shouldnt be that hard than for example spirit kings. Save ur vp for hc starshatter and upgrade trinkets meanwhile. Cant say whats ur progress on it but hc shatter is way better than sinka and highest dps boost u can obtain

  6. #926
    Will upgrade helmet if elegon sword doesn't drop. I agree with you Bonkura "maximize your character before each raid."

    However, if you upgrade something that you will soon replace you will fall WAY behind on ilvls. There's only so much valor each week, and you simply cannot upgrade everything for what it is 15 weeks or more? This is something I feel like we all need to put a lot of thought into.

    If anyone else has any suggestions I would be pleased to hear them.

  7. #927
    Quote Originally Posted by rahkarn View Post
    Will upgrade helmet if elegon sword doesn't drop. I agree with you Bonkura "maximize your character before each raid."

    However, if you upgrade something that you will soon replace you will fall WAY behind on ilvls. There's only so much valor each week, and you simply cannot upgrade everything for what it is 15 weeks or more? This is something I feel like we all need to put a lot of thought into.

    If anyone else has any suggestions I would be pleased to hear them.
    It's pretty simple really, upgrade your biggest dps gain that will last you beyond your current raid week.

    Sure you'd get more bang for you buck this week upgrading your axe over your helm, but I assume you don't expect a h-sha kill soon so your upgrade won't go to waste for some time.

  8. #928
    Hello, figured I'd ask a quick question in here regarding T14 4set, couldn't find an answer anywhere else really. Under the effects of Sanctified Wrath is it better to use TV at 3 holy power to get more TVs through AV? as opposed to the standard 5 hp? Such as HoW >Filler>HoW >TV etc, thanks.

  9. #929
    Quote Originally Posted by shamza86 View Post
    Hello, figured I'd ask a quick question in here regarding T14 4set, couldn't find an answer anywhere else really. Under the effects of Sanctified Wrath is it better to use TV at 3 holy power to get more TVs through AV? as opposed to the standard 5 hp? Such as HoW >Filler>HoW >TV etc, thanks.
    I don't use Sanctified Wrath much, but I'm pretty sure this is how it works to get the most out of it:

    -Hammer of Wrath is your top priority ability, but don't use it at 5HP.
    -Exorcism is pretty important to hit as well if it's available between Hammer of Wraths. Don't use it at 5HP.
    -Using Templar's Verdict at 3HP if Exorcism isn't up is ideal to buy time for a potential Exorcism proc.
    -Judgment is more bang-for-buck than Crusader Strike is during Avenging Wrath with Sanctified Wrath, so don't bother using Crusader Strike during it. You will always be able to either Judgment or Exorcism between Hammers.

  10. #930
    Quote Originally Posted by shamza86 View Post
    Hello, figured I'd ask a quick question in here regarding T14 4set, couldn't find an answer anywhere else really. Under the effects of Sanctified Wrath is it better to use TV at 3 holy power to get more TVs through AV? as opposed to the standard 5 hp? Such as HoW >Filler>HoW >TV etc, thanks.
    only on the last tv to fit in 1 more buffed tv if its going to run out before you can, but not constantly

  11. #931
    Quote Originally Posted by Reith View Post
    -Judgment is more bang-for-buck than Crusader Strike is during Avenging Wrath with Sanctified Wrath, so don't bother using Crusader Strike during it.
    Why is this the case? CS hits harder than Judgment unless the Judgment glyph is getting some use.

  12. #932
    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddlesnarf View Post
    Why is this the case? CS hits harder than Judgment unless the Judgment glyph is getting some use.
    Judgment hits harder, without the glyph. The only reason you prioritize CS over Judgment is to minimize clashing between those two abilities. With no free GCDs during Sanctified Wrath, there is no point in using Crusader Strike when you can always use Judgment or Exorcism instead.

  13. #933
    Yea, you're right. My mistake.

  14. #934
    Quote Originally Posted by Runewrath View Post
    Upgraded neck to heroic Garalon neck so I dropped to 9k haste. Still seeing 1 Str>2 Haste
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%B9ne/advanced

    I still don't see why this surprises you given that you have 9k haste on your gear and a trinket that procs a further 7k haste on top of that. Look how close mastery and crit are to haste as well.

  15. #935
    Quote Originally Posted by Balhale View Post
    I still don't see why this surprises you given that you have 9k haste on your gear and a trinket that procs a further 7k haste on top of that. Look how close mastery and crit are to haste as well.
    Not really surprised more curious when we should be gemming str.

  16. #936
    Quote Originally Posted by Runewrath View Post
    Not really surprised more curious when we should be gemming str.
    For you, now.

    Gem strength when your stat weights are 1 str > 2 haste.

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    Would seam that the new 510-6 SimCraft is not working O.o (windows version)


  18. #938
    Quote Originally Posted by cidic View Post
    Would seam that the new 510-6 SimCraft is not working O.o (windows version)
    There is now a 510-7 just so you know >_>

  19. #939
    Hello,

    I have some question about the retpal FCFS.

    1) I know that when wings are active, TV3 become a priority on everithing else (except inquisition) but is it always the case when we have a trinket proc (I have Relic of Xuen and Lei Shi nm), a dancing steel proc or heroïsm active ?

    The question behind is what is the more important in burst or execution phase between DPS or DPE' spell ?


    2) When i observe my personal simcraft and the simcraft in t14hm, I see that Judgement make more dps than CS & Exorcism. I can understand for CS because simcraft doesn't take in acount the dps portion from Hand of loght and the mastery but what's about Judgement.

    I believed however than in normal phase, Exorcism was a priority on Judgement.


    3)I have only the 2pt14 and i would like to know if due to it, Holy Avenger is usually better than Sanctified Wrath.

  20. #940
    Quote Originally Posted by Belephebe View Post
    2) When i observe my personal simcraft and the simcraft in t14hm, I see that Judgement make more dps than CS & Exorcism.
    You're doing something wrong if you're seeing Judgment above Exorcism in simcraft with the T14H profile, at the very least.

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