Can't argue with the facts.
Can't argue with the facts.
I'd link these instead: http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_D...14/30/default/
They are behind everything that can choose another superior spec for DPS except for shamans. We all know any AOE fight Ele is going to dunk, ret has no options. Ret falls behind in this tier even with items that are pretty well itemized while other specs dominate.
Best of all? Stupid twitter / blueposts from GC about how retribution is fine in PvP and nothing said about PvE, unless next tier bonus AND encounters have damage increases like we have in 2/3 encounters now in T14 I might aswell go prot or holy. I get that a "hybrid" shouldn't be beating pure specs, but when the pure specs have as much or even more "hybridness" than retribution has? We have burst damage, that burst damage has to carry our numbers untill CDs come back off CD. I'm scared to shits about the development of retribution dps, little to no words from the dev team and the few things we get are minor changes to "ease our lives" instead of making sure we're gonna stay viable.
I don't know why people qq about Ret, it seems like its in the best place its been in for a long time. If we were top dps if would just inflate the number of paladins, which is already a problem is some cases.
And please stop quoting me if you have 1) nothing to add? 2) contradict yourself further proving my point (w-o properly reading my post or your own source).
Lets keep this thread moving forward. Please! -Krekko
I see nothing offensive in his posts except facts that we should all be wary of moving forward into 5.2.
Blizz needs to just split their balancing team into two groups, one for pvp, and one for pve. Set skills to have "pve" values and "pvp" values that activate when you are in the respective instance. But I guess that would make too much sense for blizz.
About T14H BiS list, doing my napkin math with scale factors from my current gear i noticed that offset piece that we should use are gloves from Elegon or legs from Emporor any thoughts on that and generally on offset piece in for T14H?
I'm actually kind-of worried about where Ret will be when we get into 5.2... I know that Ret isn't the only spec suffering a bit in PVE and it could be worse - like in the case of Elemental Shamans - but that's really no excuse for some other DPS specs to perform so much better. The obvious outliers that need to be brought down to everyone else's relative level are Affliction Warlocks, Arcane Mages, SMF Fury Warriors and Assassination Rogues. If those 4 specs were brought down to around the DPS specs that still do overall more than us but still much closer to Ret on average, then there wouldn't be much to complain about concerning PVE IMO. Elemental Shamans need a little PVE love too.
If Cataclysm is any indication we're going to get a small band-aid in late 5.2 and a real buff in 5.3. Only to lose everything again in 6.0. I'd say Blizzard hates Paladins if it weren't for Shamans. Blizzard despises Shamans.
With the extra prismatic socket to the Sha touched weapon, is the heroic elegon weapon still better than the normal Shin'ka?
It's hard to tell how good T15 ret set bonuses are at a glance... not sure about them yet.