1. #2461
    Quote Originally Posted by Huntingbear_grimbatol View Post
    You got "wrong": wep, gloves, boots, shoulders, head... Your gear isn't even close to something we'd call optimized. I'm 2 rating under hit cap and 2 rating over exp cap. If you took the 535 2h sword it's a increase over any non 535 wep despite the hit, yes there's "too much" hit/exp items but there's many options... In bis gear youll be around 70 rating over hitcap (iirc) which isn't bad...
    Did you seriously just call my gear "wrong" because it's not full bis? Progression raiding is all that matters and nobody will have the "right" gear for progression. Just the fact that they itemized a pure hit trinket and a 1000 hit sword is ridiculous and that is what I was referring too. You shouldn't need an exact gear set to get workable stats. It is simply a poor design choice.
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  2. #2462
    Picked up the H TF Council Sword. Still good for the massive weapon damage. Need not to worry about too much hit yet despite, but need the H Ji-Kun trinket still.

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  3. #2463
    We've had only 1 heroic str 2h weapon & 0 Fabled Feathers drop in the past month, rng is awesome. Anyone have an opinion on 510 Lei Shen Orders vs 522 Primordius?

  4. #2464
    Well, I am 2 drops from seeing myself get the 4pc (LFR-level). Got Brutal Talisman + Ji-Kun, and finally saw my first weapon last night, on my first Lei Shen kill (yeah, it's an Uroe, but it's better than my 491 Sha-Touched Axe). I know my DPS overall won't touch anything posted here, being an LFR raider (the lack of time and schedule), but that is what it is.

    Not happy with the RNG on weapons... especially that our best two are trash drops (or in my case, gold bag drops).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbringer View Post
    Did you seriously just call my gear "wrong" because it's not full bis? Progression raiding is all that matters and nobody will have the "right" gear for progression. Just the fact that they itemized a pure hit trinket and a 1000 hit sword is ridiculous and that is what I was referring too. You shouldn't need an exact gear set to get workable stats. It is simply a poor design choice.
    Then why are you crying about devs putting too much hit on gear? there are perfectly good items this tier to avoid it and like you said it doesn't matter if you're 700 hit over rating during progress as long as the upgrades you pick are worth it. if you're at 8% hit and can't possibly get less hit and then you can get a 535 hit sword? Take it, it's gonna be a increase any way you twist it, it's not ideal (wrong) but it's still an upgrade.
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  6. #2466
    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroEdgeir View Post
    Well, I am 2 drops from seeing myself get the 4pc (LFR-level). Got Brutal Talisman + Ji-Kun, and finally saw my first weapon last night, on my first Lei Shen kill (yeah, it's an Uroe, but it's better than my 491 Sha-Touched Axe). I know my DPS overall won't touch anything posted here, being an LFR raider (the lack of time and schedule), but that is what it is.

    Not happy with the RNG on weapons... especially that our best two are trash drops (or in my case, gold bag drops).
    I feel you on that, as a LFR raider myself, I have gone through week after week without seeing a single weapon drop, I have also only see tier legs as well, but I was happy when I got a LFR Ji-Kun, just wish I could finally see a weapon to replace my 491 Shin'ka

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroEdgeir View Post
    Well, I am 2 drops from seeing myself get the 4pc (LFR-level). Got Brutal Talisman + Ji-Kun, and finally saw my first weapon last night, on my first Lei Shen kill (yeah, it's an Uroe, but it's better than my 491 Sha-Touched Axe). I know my DPS overall won't touch anything posted here, being an LFR raider (the lack of time and schedule), but that is what it is.

    Not happy with the RNG on weapons... especially that our best two are trash drops (or in my case, gold bag drops).

    Its possible to get the weapons from the gold bags in lfr?? I thought they were just random drops from bosses.

  8. #2468
    So I today I looted Primordius' Talisman of Rage which replaces Brutal Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault . I know that Ji-kun feather and spark of the zandalar are bis for ret and that the primordius trinket is not that good. But is Primordius' Talisman of Rage better or worst than the valor point trinket? Right now the 3 trinkets I have at my disposal are Primordius' Talisman of Rage , Brutal Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault and Spark of Zandalar. Which combinaiton do you guys think it will give the highest amount of dps until I can get my hands on the Ji-kun trinket.

  9. #2469
    If u can use all expertise that talisman gives you, talisman and spark. Spark primo If u cant.

  10. #2470
    don't raid heroics myself and sh!t...we still haven't made it past tortos yet....but i did get the 2h sword from council last night. sitting at 10.5 hit and can't get rid of anymore right now. i feel dirty with that much hit.

  11. #2471
    Primo + Spark. ICD on VP trink makes it pretty garbage.

  12. #2472
    Quote Originally Posted by Bombercloner View Post
    Its possible to get the weapons from the gold bags in lfr?? I thought they were just random drops from bosses.
    yeah...you can get rewards/weapons in failbags. i myself have only gotten gold and some things that turn my common pets into uncommon.

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  14. #2474
    Quote Originally Posted by Huntingbear_grimbatol View Post
    Then why are you crying about devs putting too much hit on gear? there are perfectly good items this tier to avoid it and like you said it doesn't matter if you're 700 hit over rating during progress as long as the upgrades you pick are worth it. if you're at 8% hit and can't possibly get less hit and then you can get a 535 hit sword? Take it, it's gonna be a increase any way you twist it, it's not ideal (wrong) but it's still an upgrade.
    i am 1323 over hit cap right now. thats right. i have 11.39% hit.

    theres being over hit cap, and then there is the wasted itemization nightmare we are stuck with right now.

    thanks blizz.
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    So.. I had my first raid with 4pc & meta today, Ji-Kun hc progress (& kill!) and.. Oh my god, goak, AW, potion, bl, nutrient and feather=rank 1 & hard-on.
    Does my priority change with 4pc? During AW it feels like I'm missing out on a couple of Crusader Strikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kosechi View Post
    i am 1323 over hit cap right now. thats right. i have 11.39% hit.

    theres being over hit cap, and then there is the wasted itemization nightmare we are stuck with right now.

    thanks blizz.
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Rikh/advanced

    I have HC feather and HC council wep and I'm still only 0,78 over the hit cap. Be smarter about your items, unless you're just majorly unlucky and only gets hit items.

    But yeah I get you, once I get HC magaera ring I'm gonna be quite a bit above the cap aswell, but that's just how it's gonna be this tier until you get all your bis items. Oh and it's impossible to get secrets, I'm still only 11/20..
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  17. #2477
    so currently I am a JC/BS and am thinking of going Engineering/BS, i currently am progressing through normal with plans to for heroic progression asap (we are still filling out raid team) in 5.2 as well as 5.3 and am trying to get the most i can out of my pally. i currently have Spark of Zandalar, Fabled Feather of Ji-Kun (both 522) so i will not be locked out of any on use trinkets. what do you all think, is it worth losing all the JC stuff and spending the gold to go Engineering? or is there a better profession to replace JC with/should i keep JC?

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  18. #2478
    Quote Originally Posted by twinkfist View Post
    yeah...you can get rewards/weapons in failbags. i myself have only gotten gold and some things that turn my common pets into uncommon.
    In failbags, and on bonus rolls apparently... though that I'd like some clarity on, if the shared boss drops do show up on Bonus Rolls (I assume yes... but you never know).

    The odd part is we have Bo-Ris, Horror in the Night as a Shared Boss Drop (obvious by being on every boss' loot table). And then we have items like Locksmasher Greaves that are specific loot for the failbags.

    Seems like the armor can be failbagged, but weapons cannot... which is a load of fail on it's own.
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  19. #2479
    Quote Originally Posted by Rikhx View Post
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Rikh/advanced

    I have HC feather and HC council wep and I'm still only 0,78 over the hit cap. Be smarter about your items, unless you're just majorly unlucky and only gets hit items.

    But yeah I get you, once I get HC magaera ring I'm gonna be quite a bit above the cap aswell, but that's just how it's gonna be this tier until you get all your bis items. Oh and it's impossible to get secrets, I'm still only 11/20..
    rng is cruel, and you can't always be 'smarter about your items' when you are looking at raw ilevel upgrades. you regularly end up with less than ideal gearsets. i've been assured my feather is vastly better than my heroic lei shen and i'm a fool if i don't use it but the wasted itemization is a whole other world of insane.

    but there is being over hitcap, which i understand and accept.......and then there is this...
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    Holy shit this feather is godmode. and using Rikhs trick i can get proc on pull 100% of time and about 70% of time a chain 2nd after. Jesus this is as big an increase as a full tier weapon upgrade or even meta.

    If your damage is shit get feather. Then you'll be fine lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikhx View Post
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Rikh/advanced

    I have HC feather and HC council wep and I'm still only 0,78 over the hit cap. Be smarter about your items, unless you're just majorly unlucky and only gets hit items.

    But yeah I get you, once I get HC magaera ring I'm gonna be quite a bit above the cap aswell, but that's just how it's gonna be this tier until you get all your bis items. Oh and it's impossible to get secrets, I'm still only 11/20..
    Ya it's the 2 hit rings that start to hit you in the balls and when VP + comes very... very soon that wpn and trink gonna give u dat hit. So glad im gonna have a 549 featehr idk if they will every beable to replace this trinket next tier. Hopfully its a fucking LOW HIT TIER so we can use it fully lol...

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