What % of haste should we switch to Mastery? 35% and above? Should we be using Exp/Mast gems in Reds instead of Exp/Haste then? Does it make sense to go full mastery after acquiring T16 4-set even with normal mode gear?
Last edited by Joeseidon; 2013-08-18 at 10:53 AM.
its not 4T15 and T16 set push mastery to this value. Solsa has done more then enough rank 1s on every boss people care about with full mastery and I've done the same with haste on everything including things like horridon where mastery should blow it out of the water.
Right now on live with a 541+ weapon and feather you could prolly swap now to mastery and see similar damage. Expertise/haste/mastery gems are pretty viable now actually I just havn't messed with it yet.
pretty sure youre going to see more of a swing in damage getting shitty trinket procs v good ones. its too hard to compare haste v mastery on live atm, especially with rppm having changes incoming.
but as i said before, haste is definitely going to get shit on by mastery in short order once we start ramping up in weapon damage while keeping enough haste to fill all our gcds.
With us favoring Mastery over Haste wouldn't that change our ring BiS from Asgorathian Blood Seal / Seal of the Forgotten Kings to Devilfang Band / Bloodclaw Band? Asgorathian Blood Seal -> Devilfang Band is a straight Haste to Mastery switch as both have Expertise. Same thing with the boots possibly? Wolf-Rider Spurs to Malkorok's Giant Stompers?
I was just taking a quick look at it. So, I didn't do any #s checking. I was just going off of the Mastery > Haste theory that we're using currently. So, feel free to disregard this if I'm talking out my ass.
i meant in terms of having enough haste to reliably get an art of war proc before the next time you have run out of inq/tv/how/cs/j/dp proc/4p proc/tier90 things to hit.
then again, increasing mastery will only serve to further push exo down the priority list (as if it could get any lower).
You're about as accurate as Fox News is after a global disaster.
Last edited by Spazzodin; 2013-08-18 at 07:11 PM.
Back on topic: Are there any haste minimums we will need to see? Or is the Haste we get on our gear going to be enough to push us over this? I think if we pushed a more Mastery based gear set it would change a few items on our BiS.
The aforementioned are just a few ideas i've been throwing around, and they definitely seem to be showing superior results with mastery > haste at around the 37-40% haste mark (talking tier 16, BTW). throw in an extra global in the form of our four piece, and the use of DP which again costs another global you'll quickly find the additional haste that contributes to your HP generating abilities cooldown reduction is becoming quite useless. Sure, you can argue that it helps with the GCD reduction, but the amount of haste you need to achieve such a small gain is wasteful, especially when we could use mastery (or crit) in place of it.
given that. im not sure if this has been posted elsewhere, or mentioned earlier but i've found this rotation to be the best i could come up with. feels a lot like LK feral, shit is just everywhere.
as you can see, theres going to be quite a bit of micro-managing with what we have going on, our trinket procs are extremely predictable and often line up well with wings and guardian. so changing the above rotation a bit to squeeze off harder hitting abilities as trinkets/buffs are falling off will become more common and easier to manage.
It's this attitude that makes you annoying Anaxie. You assume too much. When will you learn rank 1 parses mean absolutely nothing? You keep coming back here tier after tier and proclaim yourself to be the God of Ret Paladins. Why? Because you get a few rank 1 parses?
It's sad that EJ died because you could go there for information and not have to deal with egos.
sorry, i must have missed the part where you asked for evidence, i can't find it, care to point where the question was posed? looks to me like you jumped in for the sole intention of trolling.
Thread is open again, no mud slinging and keep the discussion moving forward and civilized please.
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Last edited by Krekko; 2013-08-18 at 07:13 PM.