1. #5061
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proberly View Post
    what about the timeless 535 (543 2/2)?
    Somebody did the math either here or over at EJ, I can't remember , but the alacrity of xuen trinket was barely better than lei shen's final order's from MSV, it may have a higher ilvl but the trinket is garbage. It has a stupid long ICD which makes it so horrible.
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  2. #5062
    How in the hell is skeer's normal WF ranked BELOW normal and flex skeer? That kind of makes me doubt those results.

  3. #5063
    I've been following Your guides all the time, but You got me really interested about that "AHK" thing You mentioned, so I only made this forum account to contact You (Used You as referrer). Any chance I could grab the one You're using or at least someone to PM me the link to it? Spent several hours trying to find it.

  4. #5064
    Quote Originally Posted by Montoyal View Post
    How in the hell is skeer's normal WF ranked BELOW normal and flex skeer? That kind of makes me doubt those results.
    Oh...right. That's what I fucked up. That isn't even Skeers, it's some shoulders that drop in siege :P. I used the wrong Item ID.

    I knew there was something I messed up. I'll run another sim. Keep in mind the results will change because of the updated simc.

    EDIT: http://i.imgur.com/ngbxZ62.png

    New sim with updated Simc(540-4). And Skeers Normal WF isn't a pair of shoulders ;P
    Last edited by Freakydiki; 2013-10-20 at 10:44 PM.

  5. #5065
    And here I was thinking that Glakaras > Thok . I stand corrected. Though since you didn't include Feather/primo or spark people are going to keep asking the same question :P.

  6. #5066
    Yeaahh, the original one had them but I didn't save those in the simc profiles. Mainly because I didn't care about the ToT trinkets. Just like the Cleave trinket, they are completely situational in my opinion.

  7. #5067
    You can paste the rotation.untested from the alpha clcinfo into clcret. Delete your rotation.lua and changed the .untested to .lua, and clcret will be updated with the free ds aw rotational command (and I think the DP ones are in there too, but I haven't messed with that yet)

    I was all setting up clcinfo and decided fuck it, lets try it. It works, yay

    I saw that it worked for clcinfo, but not clcret, just letting everyone know they appear to be interchangeable.
    Last edited by Rathimis; 2013-10-21 at 05:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montoyal View Post
    And here I was thinking that Glakaras > Thok . I stand corrected. Though since you didn't include Feather/primo or spark people are going to keep asking the same question :P.
    I'd need more than a list of processed data to convince me that it isn't.
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  9. #5069
    Unless the implementation of the trinkets is wrong I wouldn't expect there to be much difference to we could see on live. Neither trinket requires any kind of heavy micro management to optimize its usefulness.

  10. #5070
    I think galakras can be even worse than simmed if u got situations that u cant use that cd asap, which would be net loss anyways, but order to encounter to succeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by konne View Post
    I think galakras can be even worse than simmed if u got situations that u cant use that cd asap, which would be net loss anyways, but order to encounter to succeed
    Certainly this would potentially be a factor. However, I can't think of any challenging fight in SoO where there is likely to be any significant period of inactivity.
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  12. #5072
    Well in siege as belt job, i try to use aw in every belt so cant use it on boss when waiting to get belt job again and on garrosh those rooms fuck with goak and aw if i remember right

  13. #5073
    Quote Originally Posted by konne View Post
    Well in siege as belt job, i try to use aw in every belt so cant use it on boss when waiting to get belt job again and on garrosh those rooms fuck with goak and aw if i remember right
    If you do the first/third/fifth/etc belts your wings should perfectly line up for every wave. Unless you're on 2/4/6, then I feel bad for you for having to sit on all your CD's for 45sec.
    Last edited by Freakydiki; 2013-10-21 at 03:56 PM.

  14. #5074
    How should I handle my CDs for Nazgrim (LFR or flex)? Currently, I delay my AW to line up with Guardian and berserker stance, since it's 25% extra damage.
    Because I want to say this every single day but don't want it to get a drag:
    1) The ingame store will only sell timesaver items. It won't affect balance.
    2) No, getting to 100 in half the time isn't pay2win. raids don't start until the second week, everyone has time to get there.
    4) getting charms faster is also not pay2win. getting those is easy, but not everyone has the time or want for dailies.

  15. #5075
    any recommendations for iron juggernaut hc and general nazgrim hc. T15 4set or T16? I have a mixture of heroic and normal 2/2 t15 pieces and my T16 pieces are normal 2/2. what's everyone using?

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    Definitely t16 for h nazgrim if you guys plan on cleaving any of the adds at all. I haven't switched back to t15 since I finished my t16 4pc (all heroic 15 vs 1 heroic 3 norm 16), though I'm no expert on the actual numbers they would produce compared to each other on jugg.
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  17. #5077
    How should I handle my CDs for Nazgrim (LFR or flex)? Currently, I delay my AW to line up with Guardian and berserker stance, since it's 25% extra damage.
    With Flex Eye of Galakras (2/2) or higher, you can get an AV in at the beginning of battle stance, and an AV+GaK halfway through berserker (which conveniently is exactly 30 seconds). It's pretty tight timing, but you get more room (but not necessarily more gain considering you wouldn't be able to use it more) with higher ilvls of Galakras.

    Or at least, that's how the heroic encounter went for me. Although I'm pretty sure stance duration does not change in other difficulties.

  18. #5078
    Quote Originally Posted by Freakydiki View Post
    Oh...right. That's what I fucked up. That isn't even Skeers, it's some shoulders that drop in siege :P. I used the wrong Item ID.

    I knew there was something I messed up. I'll run another sim. Keep in mind the results will change because of the updated simc.

    EDIT:

    New sim with updated Simc(540-4). And Skeers Normal WF isn't a pair of shoulders ;P
    Thank you for posting this. I finally got WF Thok last night to replace H-Feather. Knew it was an upgrade, but seeing these numbers I'm a bit shocked at just how much of an upgrade it may turn out to be.

  19. #5079
    Quote Originally Posted by Freakydiki View Post
    If you do the first/third/fifth/etc belts your wings should perfectly line up for every wave. Unless you're on 2/4/6, then I feel bad for you for having to sit on all your CD's for 45sec.
    Y, im on that duty right

  20. #5080
    Quote Originally Posted by Montoyal View Post
    And here I was thinking that Glakaras > Thok . I stand corrected. Though since you didn't include Feather/primo or spark people are going to keep asking the same question :P.
    Just remove Skeer from the equation on http://i.imgur.com/1hPv28a.png and you still have the numbers for the T16 profile in simcraft version 3.

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