1. #941
    However, in the last simcraft (5.1.0 Live), i can read :

    Judgement DPS : 9022 (8%)
    Exorcism DPS : 8464 (7,5%)

    I speak about dps, not dpet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belephebe View Post
    However, in the last simcraft (5.1.0 Live), i can read :

    Judgement DPS : 9022 (8%)
    Exorcism DPS : 8464 (7,5%)

    I speak about dps, not dpet
    The DPS of each ability isn't really a factor when you're comparing abilities to each other. DPE and cooldown are more important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reith View Post
    The DPS of each ability isn't really a factor when you're comparing abilities to each other. DPE and cooldown are more important.
    Cooldown is the big thing, I think DPS factors in damage done by ability divided by the entire fight time. Meaning if you get more judgements in, it will do more "DPS" even if it's a lower priority ability. Even "damage done" is a better measure and is in fact is proportional to DPET since all abilities have the same GCD now.

  4. #944
    Hey ppl,got i short question.Is Divine purpose better then Sanctifited Wrath on Lei Shi heroic encounter?(i got 4p tier bonus)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawkeeper View Post
    Hey ppl,got i short question.Is Divine purpose better then Sanctifited Wrath on Lei Shi heroic encounter?(i got 4p tier bonus)
    I don't believe there is an instance where DP would perform above SW or HA in Heroic T14, let alone with 4 piece.

    Curiously, why do you ask?
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  6. #946
    I was just curious bec in some moments during fight u dont have ur AW for whole duration bec of his "Hide spell''and other stuff.I know we can time it correctly after some attempts but i guess that requires delaying AW for some time,so i thought that maybe DP can solve that problem.Cheers for advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawkeeper View Post
    I was just curious bec in some moments during fight u dont have ur AW for whole duration bec of his "Hide spell''and other stuff.I know we can time it correctly after some attempts but i guess that requires delaying AW for some time,so i thought that maybe DP can solve that problem.Cheers for advice
    Lei Shi is hating on classes with long cooldowns but it's also not a DPS race. The keys to killing the boss in heroic is handling stacks well and burn her down during Get Aways or to get a Protect phase before her next special. With that in mind you don't want to use CD's right before a special and instead hold them until you know what's coming.
    Last edited by Bonkura; 2012-12-19 at 08:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonkura View Post
    Lei Shi is hating on classes with long cooldowns but it's also not a DPS race. The keys to killing the boss in heroic is handling stacks well and burn her down during Get Aways or to get a Protect phase before her next special. With that in mind you don't want to use CD's right before a special and instead hold them until you know what's coming.
    Pretty much this. Except you need to be aware that in addition to every 30 seconds being a special every 20% is an add phase. So actually getting full use out of a 30 second buff is not likely. I do believe HA would be much easier to fit into a burn phase.

    The only times you can reliably get 30 seconds of dps time is at the start of the fight and the end of the fight. Otherwise you have to use cds during get away and hope it doesn't push him into an add phase in the next 30 seconds.

    As an aside I feel the same way about h-blade lord.
    Last edited by Riptide; 2012-12-19 at 08:56 PM.

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    The key to Leishi is planning your cooldowns (like blowing em on adds spawn/get away/right after hide moments etc). If ya play smart , you shouldn't lose alot if any at all.
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  10. #950
    thing about lei shi, even if you screw up with cds and he protects, you can still blow up adds, its not the best dps but its not wasted !

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    Lei Shi (like many other gimmick fights this tier) isn't about dps. If you have 3 people stacking the debuff (we use 2 hunters and me as a prot paladin stacking stam) you can get the tank to 20 stacks (max) before the boss is at 30%. Once the tank (or whoever you pick to get 20 stacks) he just run in and out to refresh the debuff stack and keeps the boss damage taken up to the max for the rest of the fight. When I have 20 stacks of the debuff the last add wave goes down in under 10seconds, same with Go away or whatever it's called.

    If you want to optimise dps you should watch for how many debuff stacks the boss has at any moment, Holy Avenger lasts 18 seconds and the average time any stacker will stay at a boss is ~15 ish seconds before they have to refresh the stack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reith View Post
    Judgment hits harder
    Only for a brief period of time when you have Guardian, Trinkets and Mogu Potion up does Judgement become the stronger option.

    The rest of the time CS + Mastery > Judgement.
    Sanctified Wrath on it's own does nothing to change that (in fact makes CS better, 20% more of something that is already doing more damage, that is)

  13. #953
    when 5.2's loot table comes out just wondering if anaxie or one of the other knowledgable ret's in this thread will be updating the BiS List?

  14. #954
    Just curious would bracers of defiled earth (normal) be better than bonded soul bracers (normal)? I know the H defiled earth are BiS but unsure if the normal ones are as good.

  15. #955
    anaxie go grab a quantum blade from black morass, it will match your challenge mode set so much better

  16. #956
    So, looking at T14's 4-piece right now, since 5.1 is it better to use HA or SW? I've seen SW used in the past with 4-piece, though I am not sure if that changes recently at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by torterra275 View Post
    So, looking at T14's 4-piece right now, since 5.1 is it better to use HA or SW? I've seen SW used in the past with 4-piece, though I am not sure if that changes recently at all?
    Definitely stick with SW longer AW and more chances to use it thanks to 4pc creates more sustain there are select fights where HA does better but for the most part u will find SW is the stand alone winner. Even if you sim yourself you will see the same results

  18. #958
    Not sure if anyone knows but if i have normal 4set gear what heroic non-set piece should i use. I have heroic feng helm, heroic spirit kings chest and heroic elegon gloves on hand to go in those slots

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    Hey guys, I just got Dread Shadow Ring http://www.wowhead.com/item=86322

    I already have these 2.
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    Its a Strength upgrade, but would lose a bunch of Haste. What do you all think?
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