Anaxie's Totally Revolutionary SoO Retribution T16 BiS & Theorycraft

[Krekko]

Does he scale with haste from when he comes out or is it constantly updated?

And that's the question of the hour.

Does it scale progressively or is it a static shot from when the spell is popped.

[Reith]

There's something wrong with this list... it has the wrong belt!

http://mop.wowhead.com/item=86955

---------- Post added 2012-09-03 at 02:52 AM ----------

And that's the question of the hour.

Does it scale progressively or is it a static shot from when the spell is popped.

I'll test that out tomorrow myself if I have to. I would much rather have it scale actively.

EDIT: I have learned something that may not necessarily be indicative of whether Guardian actively scales, but it at least indicates that it SHOULD work like this, whether it does or not for the moment: DK's ghouls from both Raise Dead and Army of the Dead scale actively.

[Deleted]

As always, great list. I have a question though, is it guaranteed that we will be speccing for SW on level 90? Without any changes coming that is of course.

[Huntingbear_grimbatol]

As always, great list. I have a question though, is it guaranteed that we will be speccing for SW on level 90? Without any changes coming that is of course.

It's 99% guaranteed that we'll be speccing for Sanctified Wrath once we have 4set T14 which dramaticly increases the power of it, there might be fights where one of the other two map out to be better but I doubt it.

---------- Post added 2012-09-03 at 01:29 PM ----------

Wish guardian would just be 45 seconds so I could finally take t11 prot out of my bags.

Feel the burden of 4 bag slots bro!

[anaxie]

Wish guardian would just be 45 seconds so I could finally take t11 prot out of my bags.

LOL wut? then you would be gaining a 68 second guardian and it would be mandatory for T11 prot.

---------- Post added 2012-09-03 at 02:04 PM ----------

There's something wrong with this list... it has the wrong belt!

http://mop.wowhead.com/item=86955

I clearly say in giant letters op hasnt been changed since like the first of July. Banned months back to back and all.

[Faemn]

I'd imagine they would nerf the t11 bonus so its not abused on another freaking expansion. Lol

[anaxie]

And that's the question of the hour.

Does it scale progressively or is it a static shot from when the spell is popped.

It's simple as hell to check anyone could have the answer in 1 minute if the grabbed a shaman. Ill check on live thhough later.
I would say he updates constantly. Which would be outstanding for the 8k haste proc trinket which is 18.3% haste for 20 seconds. He should gain about 4 attacks from that value.

Besides his damage scaling incredibly well. This of course allows us to reach 20% stack at a much more rapid pace.

---------- Post added 2012-09-03 at 02:10 PM ----------

I'd imagine they would nerf the t11 bonus so its not abused on another freaking expansion. Lol

Nothing is changed and 3 weeks till live. The chance of it happening imo is 1%. I doubt they are even aware of it ever being in play.

---------- Post added 2012-09-03 at 02:13 PM ----------

Between Guardian and stormblast mechanics ontop of how SoB functions. Haste is going to need some serious gutting before other stats catch up. Especially after the loss of a 8k haste proc trinket that syncs with wings when T15 hits ptr realms around March/April.

[Saferis]

It's 99% guaranteed that we'll be speccing for Sanctified Wrath once we have 4set T14 which dramaticly increases the power of it, there might be fights where one of the other two map out to be better but I doubt it.

---------- Post added 2012-09-03 at 01:29 PM ----------



Feel the burden of 4 bag slots bro!

So until T14 4 piece, is it a DPS loss to use SW?

[anaxie]

So until T14 4 piece, is it a DPS loss to use SW?

No it's not

[Sturmcantor]

At 90 in pre raid (463) gear HA and SW are pretty much neck and neck. Then T14 4 piece shoots SW way ahead.

[anaxie]

This is stacking them together I assume when possible? start of fight / 6 minutes in.
4 set could easily take 2 months if not more to obtain because of Vaults being put out one month before the actual Tier 14 raids Open.
Vaults Is kinda T14 prequel. T13.5 if you will.

Also small update OP taking forever to be updated because I am more focused on PC upgrade before MoP since my computer has less power then a PS1, WoW max low setting ect. :3

When i finish my new command center I may even do Ret PoV throughout MoP for some sweet paladin raiding goodness.

Op 50/50 will be fully updated sometime tomorrow if not tonight.

[Deleted]

Your work and all the others is appreciated Anaxie!

[Saferis]

What about at level 85 with all BiS? Does SW still pull ahead of HA or yet even DP?

[anaxie]

Since I only raided last week I have no idea. There isn't enough time to test because it is 100% entirely kill time based which one is ahead.

HA stacking is stupid op for spine and haggara if you only get one stun though I shot to 300k dps during her stun from not even being on meter to being #1. LOL

---------- Post added 2012-09-04 at 03:37 PM ----------

Any requests for information people would like displayed on OP?

[Saferis]

Since I only raided last week I have no idea. There isn't enough time to test because it is 100% entirely kill time based which one is ahead.

HA stacking is stupid op for spine and haggara if you only get one stun though I shot to 300k dps during her stun from not even being on meter to being #1. LOL

---------- Post added 2012-09-04 at 03:37 PM ----------

Any requests for information people would like displayed on OP?

Must have had all crits during that HA phase, which is one thing HA is quite highly based on. Gaining either a crit/mastery buff during HA provides insane damage burst. Now imagine having 90% mastery during Hagara's Feedback during HA.

[anaxie]

I had over 110%HoL mastery reforged using AoK so....

[Saferis]

I had over 110%HoL mastery reforged using AoK so....

Damn, thats alot! But we're supposed to reforge for haste in MoP so you won't be able to attain anything over 50% unbuffed i doubt.

[Deleted]

Any requests for information people would like displayed on OP?

I don't know what you intend to add, but things such as Rotation and maybe a FAQ for future question that might be asked in this thread. You could also add current statweights and eventually a tips section for encounters.

[Deleted]

I don't know what you intend to add, but things such as Rotation and maybe a FAQ for future question that might be asked in this thread. You could also add current statweights and eventually a tips section for encounters.

I would appreciate a tips section.

[Deleted]

Sounds good to me,tips section and rotation+statweights