Probably better to stop the 10/25 discussion here, it will just end in bans and a locked thread.
Probably better to stop the 10/25 discussion here, it will just end in bans and a locked thread.
Random question: Does Haste affect ES damage ? Any point to using a haste on-use with ES ?
I wouldn't lock the thread, there's too much good that it and it's predecessors have done. However, I will start smacking people if they decide to continue the 10/25 argument, or any other kind of argument that doesn't involve the actual topic of the thread.
So let's play nice, shall we?
Plugged BIS in for draenei atleast your racial is 100% useless at bis
You cannot drop below 8.5% hit. Gemming blues with str / stam to actuall have SOME BENEFIT yeah stam.... beats hit that does nothing tho. This is a very nicely itemized tier just kinda sucks for draenei.
Looking into the 509 non Heroic elite neck might be beneficial. Or Galleon ring.
EDIT: BiS as a draenei you will take all items in my OP and ONE strength / stamina gem. You should end with 7.49 exp and 7.53 hit. That is pretty outstanding honestly. Since one of the hit items gives very little gain to the class i would let all classes take Dread Shadow ring Hit/Crit ring. Before ret
If you are a Blacksmith you will end this tier at 23% haste. Basically 1.25 Sec GCD and 1 Sec GCD during Vortex procs. Breath deep my Ret brothers the second half of tier progression this tier you will be outstanding and the progression of T15 will shine for you aswell.
EDIT: Changed again. a 320 haste gem in blue and ignoring socket bonus should be a gain on belt for draenei. It feels so dirty to do that but that is the way it is.
Last edited by anaxie; 2012-10-21 at 08:18 PM.
I've been flipping back and forth with HA and SW. Before the 4 piece T14, which officially pulls ahead? Is it stat based?
Last edited by anaxie; 2012-10-21 at 08:22 PM.
I don't know if this is the place for it but... World of Logs and the recount of everyone in the raid are having some ah... rather beefy disagreements about fights. I realize you'd generally take world of logs as more accurate but it's showing me and a few other raid members as 9-10k under recount which I think is a hell of a discrepency when it's showing up on EVERYONE's recount.
On a different but related note, I'm having some trouble keeping inquisition up on elegon during the orb phase. I've opted to simply drop it if I can't sustain it while pooling enough HP to burst (usually the last 2 waves) which has definitly helped making sure I get every wave down without help from a tank. However, not having inquisition up is hardly optimal, has anyone figured out a neat trick here?
Recount doesn't measure effective dps, world of logs does. That's probably what you are seeing unless you are talking Gara'jal in which case it's just the whole two phase issue.
Anaxie, how did you determine your trinket ranking?
Refresh it in the time between each wave. Even a 2 point refresh will last long enough for a particular wave. Its okay if you don't have 5 hp when it comes out. Make sure if you have a dk he's helping everybody kill their orbs with pestilence.
How many waves are you killing? Any more than 4 each phase is not necessary on 10 man.
Last edited by Torchbringer; 2012-10-21 at 11:21 PM.
First i must say thanks anaxie for ur effort to community, just plain ej reading showed how its important to read top rets also on these maxing questions, just plain numbers and spreadsheets wont simulate accurate enough fights which arent just plain patchwerk. What i was wondering was, that u have mentioned "autohotkey" couple of times and it hasnt unveiled to me what are u meaning with it?
Edit: grammar
Last edited by konne; 2012-10-22 at 06:49 AM.
I'm not sure the legality of "AutoHotKey" makes it wise to discuss on these forums.
As looked further thought aswell that u can get banned for using it. Have u anaxie used it and have u found how to use it i terms of "legally"?
Other thing that popped on my mind was, how u use sacred shield in raids, are u ss:ing urself or into tanks?
Used AutoHotkey for months back in WotlK (t10 divine storm bonus). Nothing happened. Stopped using it in cata as it didn't seem necessary. Might be useful again thanks to way shorter GCDs.. Thanks for reminding me anaxie!
If you ask a GM regarding AHK they try to dodge the issue. It's clearly a grey area for them. They don't want to encourage the use of AHK but they also don't want to ban players for using it in this way.
Id wish people stopped trying to compare 10 and 25, honestly it's like putting 2v2 arena and 5v5 arena in the same bracket... Some fights are benefitial for 10man and some 25man, management is harder on 25man but setup and "cheesy" way to handle fights are sometimes harder on 10man (but it works 10 times better if you manage it on 10man).
Paragon was first 10man
Method was first 25man
I can't imagine pvp forums are filled with "I got 3200 rating in 2v2, I'm the best!" and then some 5v5 guy saying "lol scrub 2v2 I'm 3200 5v5 I'm automaticly better than you!"
STOP IT!
You all come out as 7 year old kids fighting over whoever has the coolest pokemon card...
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