Anaxie's Totally Revolutionary SoO Retribution T16 BiS & Theorycraft

[Faesroll]

I've had feather proc from looting a corpse.

[Revvo]

Close but no. AW glyph + hot casted via Eternal Flame both proc Dancing Steel tho.

This sounds more accurate. I've never had trinket procs off of healing. I have had it proc off censure during Lei Shen transition, and then you're mad.

[Xanda]

HI, i have a question for you.

This is my paladin http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...enshi/advanced

Do you think http://www.wowhead.com/item=95799 is better than http://www.wowhead.com/item=79327 ?

Gaze looks really shitty to me tbh, but i'd like some confirmations.

[Neldarie]

HI, i have a question for you.

This is my paladin http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...enshi/advanced

Do you think http://www.wowhead.com/item=95799 is better than http://www.wowhead.com/item=79327 ?

Gaze looks really shitty to me tbh, but i'd like some confirmations.

Gaze is better (very strong on pull trinket in general only maybe feather beats it in opening burst), and it's not as shit as most people make it out to be on ret (scales with haste currently rppm, and you crit often enough to make it viable).

[anaxie]

Got a HTF gaze. Makes a nice paperweight.

[Deleted]

Praise raptor Jesus, I finally got my 4P. And I got a secret from dark animus as well, so only 1 more to go.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Nzall/advanced

apart from the serpent's eye (which i'll fix now), any suggestions to make? I had to adapt the reforgelite suggestions because I disagreed with the reforges. ended up at perfect expertise and 5 points below hit, but the alternative is 8 above hit and 7 above expertise in exchange for 20 mastery.

[will32]

Hey peeps was looking for a good AHK script that someone may have came across on the internet. Im looking to have a one button spam all of my rotations type thing just something that will make my Num key pad faster since I use that for my Spell/Abilities. I bought a G710 keyboard and found a script that i can use to make that happen but anytime i press anything on the NumPad keyboard it opens up my talents/spellbooks and cast things that i dont have bind or want to be used. Here is my example script if someone can correct Thanks ahead of time. Sorry about the spam but it wont let me link through pastebin.

~numpad0::
IfWinActive World of Warcraft
loop
{
GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T
 
if (ScrollLockState = "U") {
break
} else {
Send numpad0
Sleep, 10 ; Sleep for 20 msec
GetKeyState, state, numpad0, P
if state = U ; The key has been released, so break out of the loop.
break
}
}
return
~numpad1::
IfWinActive World of Warcraft
loop
{
GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T
 
if (ScrollLockState = "U") {
break
} else {
Send numpad1
Sleep, 10 ; Sleep for 20 msec
GetKeyState, state, numpad1, P
if state = U ; The key has been released, so break out of the loop.
break
}
}
return
~numpad2::
IfWinActive World of Warcraft
loop
{
GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T
 
if (ScrollLockState = "U") {
break
} else {
Send numpad2
Sleep, 10 ; Sleep for 20 msec
GetKeyState, state, numpad2, P
if state = U ; The key has been released, so break out of the loop.
break
}
}
return
~numpad3::
IfWinActive World of Warcraft
loop
{
GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T
 
if (ScrollLockState = "U") {
break
} else {
Send numpad3
Sleep, 10 ; Sleep for 20 msec
GetKeyState, state, numpad3, P
if state = U ; The key has been released, so break out of the loop.
break
}
}
return
~numpad4::
IfWinActive World of Warcraft
loop
{
GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T
 
if (ScrollLockState = "U") {
break
} else {
Send numpad4
Sleep, 10 ; Sleep for 20 msec
GetKeyState, state, numpad4, P
if state = U ; The key has been released, so break out of the loop.
break
}
}
return
~numpad5::
IfWinActive World of Warcraft
loop
{
GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T
 
if (ScrollLockState = "U") {
break
} else {
Send numpad5
Sleep, 10 ; Sleep for 20 msec
GetKeyState, state, numpad5, P
if state = U ; The key has been released, so break out of the loop.
break
}
}
return
~numpad6::
IfWinActive World of Warcraft
loop
{
GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T
 
if (ScrollLockState = "U") {
break
} else {
Send numpad6
Sleep, 10 ; Sleep for 20 msec
GetKeyState, state, numpad6, P
if state = U ; The key has been released, so break out of the loop.
break
}
}
return
~numpad7::
IfWinActive World of Warcraft
loop
{
GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T
 
if (ScrollLockState = "U") {
break
} else {
Send numpad7
Sleep, 10 ; Sleep for 20 msec
GetKeyState, state, numpad7, P
if state = U ; The key has been released, so break out of the loop.
break
}
}
return
~numpad8::
IfWinActive World of Warcraft
loop
{
GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T
 
if (ScrollLockState = "U") {
break
} else {
Send numpad
Sleep, 10 ; Sleep for 20 msec
GetKeyState, state, numpad8, P
if state = U ; The key has been released, so break out of the loop.
break
}
}
return
~numpad9::
IfWinActive World of Warcraft
loop
{
GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T
 
if (ScrollLockState = "U") {
break
} else {
Send numpad9
Sleep, 10 ; Sleep for 20 msec
GetKeyState, state, numpad9, P
if state = U ; The key has been released, so break out of the loop.
break
}
}
return
~NumpadDot::
IfWinActive World of Warcraft
loop
{
GetKeyState, ScrollLockState, ScrollLock, T
 
if (ScrollLockState = "U") {
break
} else {
Send NumpadDot
Sleep, 10 ; Sleep for 20 msec
GetKeyState, state, NumpadDot, P
if state = U ; The key has been released, so break out of the loop.
break
}
}
return

[anaxie]

The if win active WoW part shouldn't be copied

Script PMed

make sure script isn't running when you try to put in password DUH

[Deleted]

Hi

I have tested 4P T16 + Divine Purpose on Iron Juggernaut and i'm not satisfied of the result. I have switch after with Sanctified Wrath and the DPS has better than DP.

However, when there is AoE/cleave like Immerseus, it's very awesome :O.

The reduction and nerf of Guardian + loss 4P T15 + loss Feather of Jikun drive a big decrease of open / burst.


NB : Sorry for the skinning of English. ^^

[Krekko]

Hi

I have tested 4P T16 + Divine Purpose on Iron Juggernaut and i'm not satisfied of the result. I have switch after with Sanctified Wrath and the DPS has better than DP.

However, when there is AoE/cleave like Immerseus, it's very awesome :O.

The reduction and nerf of Guardian + loss 4P T15 + loss Feather of Jikun drive a big decrease of open / burst.


NB : Sorry for the skinning of English. ^^

Curious how familiar and comfortable you are with the rotation with DP?

Guardian was not nerfed, as well, in fact, it's an all around damage buff. Feather should still be desirable as well, it was just an adjustment of mechanics and how it works but achieving the same output.

Not all fights will DP be on top, SW will shine as well, but DP is a rotational change and it might be something you need to get used to to maximize.

[Deleted]

Besides, comparing short fight, you'll see grand disparity between dps with DP, whereas SW is consistent.

Unless you killed it (11min+ fight iirc) and then it would be less roller coaster, but still a little.

[Simca]

@neari/Krekko/metasaigneur discussion: Noting which of the new trinkets neari used is pretty important in this case, as all users on the PTR have access to the full array of new 558 trinkets, and they're all pretty odd ones. Spell priority will be affected by at least one of them, and the others could still change talent selection.

@AHK discussion: As far as I know, AHK discussion is permissible as long as you use it for valid purposes. Your example code looks legitimate, since replacing a button press with a button hold is allowed. Just be careful because the way you requested help seemed REALLY weird ("a one button spam all of my rotations type thing"), and that could have earned you an infraction with a mod who could only see your weird request + 'some code'.

Also, [code][/code] reduces the spam, just a tip.

[Deleted]

well.... discussing about talent tier 75 and impact on rotation with 4pt16, but... ok ^^

[Deleted]

Krekko : yep, the rotation isn't a problem (except for an error by fight because of UI). But i feel the nerf of burst (atm, oppening 500k +/- vs 400k on ptr) influence the total DPS.

Simca : I have test T15 + old trinket / T16 + new trinket / T16 + Feather + one of SoO and the best was T15 + Fabled + Evil Eye of Galakras (approxmatly 250k DPS on Iron Juggernaut after 5min).

For fun, just look AoE on Immerseus : i can't post videolink, you can check my chain "MrNeari" and "Immerseus 25 HC PTR" on YT if you need look a big AoE burst =D

[anaxie]

Probably a good guideline to put on the first page to Coin Thok (Thead, trinket) > Sha of Pride (Tchest, Weapon) > Galakras (Trinket of deeps) > Whatever next is good upgrades for you (Think Nazgrim mace if you have a 522 weapon vs upgrading a flex trinket to normal mode)

Saves alot of "what should I coin" questions from people not reading the thread.

Fuck Galakras. New weapon #1 priority imo.

- - - Updated - - -

Krekko : yep, the rotation isn't a problem (except for an error by fight because of UI). But i feel the nerf of burst (atm, oppening 500k +/- vs 400k on ptr) influence the total DPS.

Simca : I have test T15 + old trinket / T16 + new trinket / T16 + Feather + one of SoO and the best was T15 + Fabled + Evil Eye of Galakras (approxmatly 250k DPS on Iron Juggernaut after 5min).

For fun, just look AoE on Immerseus : i can't post videolink, you can check my chain "MrNeari" and "Immerseus 25 HC PTR" on YT if you need look a big AoE burst =D

I'm willing to bet you there are major issues all over that test.

[Neldarie]

Ye similar results from Juggernaught heroic testing and its 8min berserk so hardly any 11min stuff. Tho not as bad as the other person suggested but still miles behind the super buffed dks and rogues in terms of single target dmg output (both frost and unholy). I was testing t16 +cd reduction/amp trinket combo and was around 230-240k dps on a 8minute pull with goak doing 20-22% total dmg. That said early on I would prolly keep using t15 4set for single target fights such as Juggernaught. Also after some testing around and comparing (dummies and jugg), I don't think tier16 4set is worth it at all (vs 543 t15 4set) untill you get at least normal TF wep from SoO or higher or heroic tier for that matter.

And ye coinwise : boss4 (tierchest/sword), boss8 (tiergloves/mace), boss11 (tierhead/polearm/ring/trinket).

As for first heroic reset prolly boss4 + boss5 for trinket and most likely save last coin for boss11(normal) loot pinata again (thats assuming you find first 6 bosses rather faceroll and easily doable first week of heroics).

[Fiddlesnarf]

Apologies if this has been discussed/answered in the last... 50 pages.
Anaxie, will you be making a trinket comparison list like you did with t14 trinkets? I like that.

[Huntingbear_grimbatol]

can we start calling Galakras what he is? Dickface... it's a trash fight... it almost challenges Madness of Deathwing on how boring it is...

[Neldarie]

I've had feather proc from looting a corpse.

Supplication actually procs RPPMs similar to DK's Runic Corruption. But yes not mounting nor corpse looting.

[Fiddlesnarf]

Supplication actually procs RPPMs similar to DK's Runic Corruption. But yes not mounting nor corpse looting.

I've had my trinkets proc from salvaging mechanicals. Its quite funny.