Anaxie's Totally Revolutionary SoO Retribution T16 BiS & Theorycraft

[Huntingbear_grimbatol]

Thoks trinket doesnt exist.

It only drops when Im not around =[

CURSE YOU NORMAL TF FEATHER. I cant even get a paragons one to drop. It makes me sad.

543 Spark of useless says hi.

[Tanyn]

Yeah, I haven't gotten the Thok trinket yet either. Been using my Spark but I got a Skeer's I'm trying out just because I'm so sick of Spark.

[CyborgGrandpa]

Thoks trinket doesnt exist.

It only drops when Im not around =[

CURSE YOU NORMAL TF FEATHER. I cant even get a paragons one to drop. It makes me sad.

Yep. Only just got my Galakras H a week or so ago, but I'm convinced Thok's is just a myth. LFR/Flex/Normal every week since patch came out, not a dorp. Love being stuck at 9.5% hit cause of this fucking feather.

[Fredzilla]

We've only had one H galakras trinket at all in our raid, from a DKs coin.

And at least yours is heroic bear!

[anaxie]

No thok and normal eye 4 life


That moment when Thok drops double cleave heal trinkets three weeks in a row =/

[Rooskie1993]

Can someone tell me what the rotation is when you get 4PC? I got 4pc last night and seems divine storm does a lot of dmg but it isnt a holy power generator so im confused

[CyborgGrandpa]

We de'ed almost every single thing that dropped from Immers H to Nazgrim H. Literally nothing but agi leather. /sigh

[Xtrm]

I hate Thok. I rolled on him tonight, saw the loot option pop up, heart skipped a beat, and what do I get? The crappy ring, why the hell is the expertise/mastery ring not considered Protection loot?

[Montoyal]

I have a total of 24 galakras kills from various dificulties with 11 extra rolls and 15 thok kills with 11 extra rolls also. I haven't been lucky enough to get ANY version of either trinket.

H Feather and H spark 4 life .

[Weightlifter]

Looks like the thread turned into off topic and loot qq.

[hugsofdeath]

Can someone SIM my character for me with this current gear. and then Swap the helm with the RF double upgraded tier helm, and also the flex double upgraded chest. It will give me my 4 piece just want to make sure its worth swapping them out since I will lose quite a bit of str, but everything else doesn't change that much. I can sim my character myself, but I don't know how to swap pieces of gear out without actually upgrading and gemming them in game.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ofdeath/simple

[Xtrm]

Looks like the thread turned into off topic and loot qq.

WHY CAN'T I GET A NEW NECK!? AND I NEED A NEW RING, AND I GAVE THE IRON JUGGERNAUT BELT TO OUR PALLY TANK YESTERDAY INSTEAD OF TAKING IT FOR MYSELF SO NOW I NEED A NEW BELT TOO!

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ls/Xtrm/simple

Anyways, I asked this question a few pages back, but since I couldn't link, I couldn't link my armory. Should I swap out all my Strength/Haste gems for Expertise/Haste? Also, regarding rings, should I use the normal Thok ring at all? I'm wearing a warforged Protectors ring and flex Spoils currently.

[Maegor]

Can someone tell me what the rotation is when you get 4PC? I got 4pc last night and seems divine storm does a lot of dmg but it isnt a holy power generator so im confused

Rotation is in OP for t16 4p.

[UnderworldSoup]

I hate Thok. I rolled on him tonight, saw the loot option pop up, heart skipped a beat, and what do I get? The crappy ring, why the hell is the expertise/mastery ring not considered Protection loot?

Because it's actually a viable choice for a ring if you don't have access to one of the other two.

Loot issues aside, how are you guys finding you hold up relative to other specs and classes in your comps?

[Maegor]

Anyways, I asked this question a few pages back, but since I couldn't link, I couldn't link my armory. Should I swap out all my Strength/Haste gems for Expertise/Haste? Also, regarding rings, should I use the normal Thok ring at all? I'm wearing a warforged Protectors ring and flex Spoils currently.

Yes, as stated in OP, reforge out of exp and gem exp/haste in red slots. Also, somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but you should also use the str JC gems instead of haste gems since the extra 160 str > extra 160 haste. Also, never give up gear for tanks unless they are having survivability issues since if they can stay alive then the dps boost is better for the group (unless maybe it is a side grade for you and a big ilvl upgrade for them).

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Because it's actually a viable choice for a ring if you don't have access to one of the other two.

Loot issues aside, how are you guys finding you hold up relative to other specs and classes in your comps?

The only person that matches me is our hunter who is 2-3 ilvl's above me. Of course, if our lock who sims at 280k could do more than 150k dps that would probably be different.

[Deleted]

Loot issues aside, how are you guys finding you hold up relative to other specs and classes in your comps?

Better than ever.

[Maegor]

Can someone SIM my character for me with this current gear. and then Swap the helm with the RF double upgraded tier helm, and also the flex double upgraded chest. It will give me my 4 piece just want to make sure its worth swapping them out since I will lose quite a bit of str, but everything else doesn't change that much. I can sim my character myself, but I don't know how to swap pieces of gear out without actually upgrading and gemming them in game.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ofdeath/simple

If it gives you your 4p then I promise it is better than even different pieces that are hcwf. No sim needed.

[Huntingbear_grimbatol]

Can someone SIM my character for me with this current gear. and then Swap the helm with the RF double upgraded tier helm, and also the flex double upgraded chest. It will give me my 4 piece just want to make sure its worth swapping them out since I will lose quite a bit of str, but everything else doesn't change that much. I can sim my character myself, but I don't know how to swap pieces of gear out without actually upgrading and gemming them in game.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ofdeath/simple

160 exp gems means you can get 160 mastery or haste through reforges, so yes. unless you're expertise capped always use exp + haste/mastery gems in red sockets.
In your case you have reforged into expertise on: Neck, Cloak (can be fine), Chest, Gloves and Belt.
All of those are "wrong". In total you have 1745 expertise from reforging that's wrong, you should change all your gems with str on them to expertise, as you get more gem sockets available continue gemming expertise and using less exp reforges. Your cloak should have a exp + haste/mastery gem, same with your ring.

All in all you have 2 str+haste/mastery gems you should change for exp (320 exp) and another 2 gems you should change (cloak and ring) for another 320 exp, so you can go remove 640 exp from your reforges and put them into mastery since you are at the theoretical haste "cap".

[hugsofdeath]

If it gives you your 4p then I promise it is better than even different pieces that are hcwf. No sim needed.

Really? tyvm

[Fredzilla]

160 exp gems means you can get 160 mastery or haste through reforges, so yes. unless you're expertise capped always use exp + haste/mastery gems in red sockets.
In your case you have reforged into expertise on: Neck, Cloak (can be fine), Chest, Gloves and Belt.
All of those are "wrong". In total you have 1745 expertise from reforging that's wrong, you should change all your gems with str on them to expertise, as you get more gem sockets available continue gemming expertise and using less exp reforges. Your cloak should have a exp + haste/mastery gem, same with your ring.

All in all you have 2 str+haste/mastery gems you should change for exp (320 exp) and another 2 gems you should change (cloak and ring) for another 320 exp, so you can go remove 640 exp from your reforges and put them into mastery since you are at the theoretical haste "cap".

Something to note though is you don't get haste or mastery from getting rid of an exp reforge on your cloak (unless you for some crazy reason didn't reforge it out of the crit), so something to keep in mind.