I'm absolutely baffled. You only have (after the schedule this week) 3 more bosses to test normal for the tier in 10m. You've announced the cinematic. Your beta is almost a finished game and it's playable. You're announcing ptr. Where on earth is the release date? Doesn't add up.
they have been in the past.
in cata pre release patch ptr i was able to log on without being subbed
Without commenting on the starter edition accounts (no idea) I can say that being subbed to WoW at the time PTR is going on means nothing. Blizzard does "screening of active accounts" some time before they open PTR and if you are subbed at the time of the "screening" then you will have access to that PTR regardless of being subbed to live WoW while the PTR runs.
This screening usually takes place anywhere from 1 day to 3 weeks before the PTR goes live.
Pre expansion PTRs were 63, 61 and 86 days long for the last 3 expansion. I bet it will be a little shorter since the actual pre-patch will be only ~2 weeks long and that is much shorter than previous ones. 1 more point for end of august/first week of sept release.
3 months is not "Right around the Corner." They wouldn't be announcing 5.1 coming to the PTR soon if it was 3 months away, I'd put it at a month tops, and even that seems too far away for an announcement. What'd I'd like to ask is how long is a pre-launch patch on the ptr before it goes live, if any reasonable average can be deduced from past events. We already know that release is about 2 weeks after 5.0 is released on Live, so with a little math here and there, maybe we can come up with a better estimate.
So never mind, I realize he meant that the ptr stuff makes it onto live, as opposed to the ptr you know, coming out. Ignore my post
Since they are still in the middle of some not insignificant gameplay changes on the beta, it would be very stupid of them to give you a date.
That's not the reason, they couldn't care less about that.
It's all about hyping your product, you as a company have the date, but they people don't, so you keep giving them hints to keep them excited and talking about the product. If they gave you the date, there wouldn't be much of a hype, it would last a few weeks, but that's it. Why you think Apple doesn't announce their new products that much in time? To keep their costumers and outsiders hyped.
Hmm, I guess people who have access to the beta should still be able to use the PTR, as the beta license in your battle.net account is separate from your main account. That is, you may connect to the live realms with WoW1, but your beta license is WoW2 (or similar).
True, but very relevant to PR for the company. Blizzard wouldn't look too good in the public eye if people were anticipating that date for the release.
Am I the only one that read the blue post as "use one PTR account to log into beta and use the other PTR account for the PTR?" I have PTR 1 and PTR 3 under my game license. PTR 3 is my beta access. So PTR 1 is my PTR account, I think.