This entire premise of the this thread is facepalm-worthy. Everything will always be (relatively) balanced, it doesn't matter what Blizzard does or doesn't "nerf", there is always something to compensate if necessary.
This entire premise of the this thread is facepalm-worthy. Everything will always be (relatively) balanced, it doesn't matter what Blizzard does or doesn't "nerf", there is always something to compensate if necessary.
Ya couple of heals isn't going to impact pve at all....... *note extreme sarcasm*have you done hard modes? also you do know you have a talent dream of cenarius that increases your next damaging spell by 70% when you cast a heal?
And no.... di + legendary still doesn't equal 6k dps, also shadowpriests "need" di just about as much as boomkins. Making di a raidwide buff was a good choice it doesn't make people feel excluded so people like you can't say "wtf I would've totally done 20k more dps on madness with di wtf lock". <<<<exactly what people don't want
I agree moonkins need some love in mop and they're getting TONS of it. I'd respect this post more if you were testing on beta and this wasn't based around the loss of di...
Actually that is not true, Boomkins gain more dps from DI especially when the SP has 4 set (spamming MS and having no dots up during SF) thus also increasing the warlocks dps. Shadowpriests also do much more dps single target than boomkins if they both have no DI.
TLDR: No
But i do agree that removing DI as a personal buff is great. And i do think moonkins will do great dps in tier 14 both single target and multi target.
If Fae Empowerment stays the way it is it will seperate the lucky and the unlucky ones ;P
BTT: Moonkin single target dps is fine in MoP. We loose Insect swarm but eclipse-cycles go faster. We also get a nice burst CD. I tested some Beta Raidencounters and could allways compete with the other classes, except warlock (140k dps lock is just sick O.o )
Okay you guys aren't really understanding what I said originally. I'm not saying that BECAUSE of the loss of dark intent and legendary staff moonkin is going to be sub par. I'm just automatically making the assumption that moonkin will be sub par so that people can tell me what spells (such as dark intent in live) could possibly increase our DPS in MoP.
Obviously going to in an expansion blizzard resets ALL of the numbers and starts from scratch so lets just say the numbers come up and moonkin once again falls short. Since we won't have a legendary staff or dark intent ro rely on in LIVE what could moonkins possibly be looking for in terms of an outside buff to help improve our dps?
I really don't need your respect but thanks anyway and yes dark intent and legendary is close to a 6k dps increase and if you read correctly once again instead of twisting my words around you would've seen that I said "WE ARE GETTING A COUPLE OF HEALS WE CAN DO IN A FORM AND THE HEALS WON'T IMPACT PVE AT ALL". Not that off healing in PvE won't be an impact...
Also compared to Nature's Vigil dream of cenarius is pretty poo
You are looking at this as if other classes still have access to DW and DI. This is clean slate, the only thing that will determine what classes are good are numbers.
Last edited by Volitar; 2012-07-08 at 05:28 PM.
Hi Sephurik
Considering the major classes overhaul and talents reset, I don't see why would you think that Boomkins are still "sub par" and will need special buffs to come to the other DPS's level.
And since that Shaman nature damage totem is the only thing close to a DI, and that being a raidwide DI, beyond missing one of the 8 core buffs I don't see a reason to under-perform.
So why are you introducing the "moonkin will be bad" angle at all? It's completely irrelevant to your actual question, since those buffs would improve your DPS regardless.
As is, though, there's nothing to look to. Everything you get, everybody else gets, too. Which you could easily have found out by doing a minimum of research instead of posting a needlessly complex question.
You make little sense in your "argumentation". Very little. That you keep loading it with emotionally charged but completely irrelevant "arguments" doesn't help.what?...,,