Culling lives for a better world?

[Stelio Kontos]

Recently in the thread about one-world governments it popped up that some people seem to think a one-world government is possible only when "crazies, fanatics, and the world's religions are culled".

Considering it's apparently not offensive to call for the culling of entire groups of people, I thought I'd open the topic of discussion up a little further. Do you believe it necessary to cull (ie: kill) off groups of people that in your view of the world aren't beneficial? Is the only way to make the world a better place to murder millions of people you don't like? Are there people that can actually justify such a twisted look at things?

And note to mods: If you're going to lock this, please explain why it's a violation to make a topic discussing culling, yet you haven't done anything regarding posts calling for the culling of people in the one-world government topic.

[Agent Mercury]

Openly it would never work. Do I think systematically removing the "scum" of the earth to be helpful? Yes. Do I have the right to make those decisions over anyone else? No.

[StationaryHawk]

Culling a population of people we don't agree with would only represent what sort of world we'd be living in afterwards.

[Kasierith]

Are there actually people...... want me to show you the plans that the Nazi's had for Russia, had they won the war?

As for culling people who you don't believe with, such a view would actually be fanatical in base due to being unwilling to work out a compromise. The cullers would eventually have to cull themselves as well.

[Raintola]

First you'd have to come up with criteria that would subject one to the culling. Then you'd have to legitimize it. Then you'd actually have to succeed in it. Then you'd have to find out if it was really worth it or not.

[Valort]

Someone tried about 70 years ago...

The problem with "culling" is what may seem like "scum of the earth" to some, isn't actually to others.

Forcibly educating people would work much better.

[Knight Gil]

It's quite unfortunate that there are nazis and extremely delusional people who think so. Others realize that trying to make a better world through the culling of people makes as much sense as fucking for virginity

[Stelio Kontos]

It's quite unfortunate that there are nazis and extremely delusional people who think so. Others realize that trying to make a better world through the culling of people makes as much sense as fucking for virginity

That was essentially how I thought too, if everyone tries culling people they don't like it's going to be a pretty empty planet. I was just surprised there are people who think it's a good idea for one group but would cry bloody murder if you said it for another group as a Devil's Advocate-type counterpoint.

[Deleted]

Dangerous topic, as i still believe some cultures would be better off being "removed" from this planet... having served in both Iraq and Afghanistan for 5 years. But then again killing those people wouldn't be the awnser. But i do believe the world would be a better place without it.

[Deleted]

Eugenics and genocide are incredibly popular on the internet for whatever reason.

Fortunately it's mostly just idiots who are bored and think they're still in a video game. They don't (usually) mean anything by it, they just don't think. People on the internet love to act like a tough guy, so I suppose the same applies to politics. Why be a regular moderate person with reasonable views when you can be the internets answer to Stalin?

[Xarkan]

Recently in the thread about one-world governments it popped up that some people seem to think a one-world government is possible only when "crazies, fanatics, and the world's religions are culled".

Considering it's apparently not offensive to call for the culling of entire groups of people, I thought I'd open the topic of discussion up a little further. Do you believe it necessary to cull (ie: kill) off groups of people that in your view of the world aren't beneficial? Is the only way to make the world a better place to murder millions of people you don't like? Are there people that can actually justify such a twisted look at things?

And note to mods: If you're going to lock this, please explain why it's a violation to make a topic discussing culling, yet you haven't done anything regarding posts calling for the culling of people in the one-world government topic.

Somehow when i saw the topic i was thinking it would be about overpopulation of the planet and solving that.. dunno why..

Anyhow. If i believe in a democratic approach, and i do, then i would be a bit of a hypocrite if i supported killing off the many who might not agree with me. come to think of it.. as a socialist i would be culled by the insanity sooner or later so.. it is probably in my best interest to vote no to culling

[Deleted]

Oh look, another thread advocating genocide. Why is this so popular on the internet?

[Stelio Kontos]

Oh look, another thread advocating genocide. Why is this so popular on the internet?

Did you actually even read my initial post? I wasn't defending it, I made the topic as a response to someone calling for the mass-killing of religious people and made the topic in regards to that view being supported by some. I myself don't believe anyone should be culled. Hell, I come from a culture that suffered a genocide in the early 20th century, and almost a new one in WW2.

And john67, I think you're right on the money with that. It seems to be a lot of "internet intellectuals" that call for things like eugenics and culling. It's just worrying to wonder if these are the democratic representatives of tomorrow and they have these beliefs.

[Caiada]

It's universally a horrible idea. Eugenics is even worse.

[Very Tired]

On paper is seems nice, but killing off people who don't agree with you is a subjective term. How do you determine who is correct, who isn't beneficial to the world, where does it stop? Maybe people who don't agree with you are the people with the better view. Oh yeah and Hitler. Godwin.

[Beavis]

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

-Martin Niemöller

[lunariongames]

Culling off an entire group of people to acquire a common outlook on things would never work. Some true fanatics for their view would stay true, but you would be opening yourself up to a rebel society who puts on the face of your view, but has no intentions of complying, and will simply use every minute of their given life to try and take down your organization.

[Deleted]

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