Alliance Dalaran

[Callace]

There's a difference there. Stormwind got its Harbor in 3.0.

And that was necessary to get to Northrend.

The OP's idea is not in any way necessary.

[Derah]

I, for one, was under the impression she was already on the Council. I guess this means she'll simply be trading her cool port citadel for that stupid circle in Dal with the others standing on it.

For all intents and purposes she should had been (She was considered the strongest mage on azeroth before Knaak introduced his mary-sue Rhonin) but she wasnt.

My guess is because she fled the eastern kingdoms to start her own nation, so the mages didn't included her in the council. She was still a member due to being a mage, but not on the ruling body.

But still, the OP (And people agreeing with him) are being incredibly deluded to think that the kirin tor and Dalaran would become alliance. Even worst saying on the title that its "Confirmed". I read the tweet of kosak, dalaran was not mentioned AT ALL on it. We've know 3 things from sound-files in the beta, and dev tweets:

A: Jaina will become the new leader of the Kirin Tor.

B: Despite being the leader of the kirin tor she will not be neutral, she remains alliance.

C: She may (or may not) become more aggressive, deciding to get rid of the peace she's strove to find and instead go to war.

How exactly does this means EVERY OTHER MAGE will follow her, I have no idea. As I've said before, the Kirin Tor has never been led by a single person. They're led by a council, and while said council has a chairman (It was Antonidas, then Rhonin) every desicion made by the council is still subject to vote. So no, no alliance-exclusive dalaran.

Jaina is the newest member of the council of six and that's all there is to it.

[Callace]

Not rebuilt, "moved back." But there will be two Dalarans set in different time periods.

If there was an emoticon emphatic enough to respond to this, my eyeballs would remove themselves from my skull.

[Brendanb]

It's a minor glyph, and it's intended as a joke. It's presented as an old Teleport: Dalaran glyph which teleports you to the Dalaran crater (as in, a glyph that was created by someone before Dalaran was rebuilt).

It's a spell taught by a book..

[MMOTotal]

Taking this from SoL, it's from 2008 but it shows Blizzard has put Dalaran in Alterac even if it was just for the picture.

http://www.scrollsoflore.com/forums/...ead.php?t=3773

[Callace]

But still, the OP (And people agreeing with him) are being incredibly deluded to think that the kirin tor and Dalaran would become alliance.

Yes. I think delusion is precisely the right word.

[MMOTotal]

Yes. I think delusion is precisely the right word.

Jeez... it's just speculation and hope. Nothing needs to be taken seriously.

[Callace]

Jeez... it's just speculation and hope. Nothing needs to be taken seriously.

"Alliance Dalaran is pretty much confirmed"

Have a mod change the title then.

There are already dozens of thread for these kind of speculations.

[Callei]

Late, but in regards to Alterac as per my idea: The idea behind making it an Alliance zone isn't to make it a low-level one. I'm talking level-cap, lore-heavy stuff that's there for players who want to get into the lore (much like the Lorewalkers), maybe with cosmetic reward items to encourage people to play through it. You start with Dalaran hovering over the Crater, and as you progress through the quests, Alterac gets built up into an extension of the city (which remains airborne and accessible by an NPC near the Crater offering to teleport you up to the room you teleport into in Northrend when you use the rune on the ground). A lot of the quests would deal with handling the Forsaken response to Dalaran returning and taking a pro-Alliance stance, as well as Sunreaver saboteurs and forcing the Syndicate and the ogre presence out of Alterac proper.

Actually, scrap the Alliance-only bit, make it a Contested zone with the ruins of Alterac built up into a Sunreaver base, with the theme based around the Kirin Tor (backed by Alliance troops) and the Sunreavers (backed by Forsaken troops) going at it, with daily quests for both factions and a quest line for the Horde establishing the Sunreaver presence there as a response to Dalaran's return and Alliance stance.

As the patches go on, daily quests could be added where you fight off an ever-increasing Forsaken siege on Kirin Tor-controlled lands, backed by Sunreavers who build the Ruins of Alterac up into a fortress of their own (Horde players would get dailies to bolster the Forsaken troops, attack prominent locations like choke points or ambush points, and escort Forsaken saboteurs into Dalaran itself, while Alliance players get dailies to kill the saboteurs, bolster the Alliance troops, attack those choke points and ambush sites, and sneak blood elf defectors into the Sunreaver base as moles or disguise themselves as blood elves to gather intel on the next step of their plans).

Come the Orgrimmar patch, things could hit full throttle and even when you're not doing dailies there, if you've completed the quest line for your faction you see the Alliance and Forsaken troops tearing each other a new one (collectively speaking), and Kirin Tor and Sunreaver mages lobbing spells at each other from behind the front lines.

Likely to happen? Probably not. Would it be actually kinda cool even if I don't like the faction war? .... Yeah, kinda.

[WoWiTzGeo]

Wow, this sounds very interesting but almost unfair for the Horde if they obtain an extra city that the Horde don't have

[Holtzmann]

All we've done here is devolved into second guessing. We're concocting theories that require either Siege of Orgrimmar to be a lie, or Blizzard's statements about how the reason 80-85 was so bad was due to the old world revamp was a lie.

Hey, you're the one coming up with theories that break the Siege of Orgrimmar or that would require a full world revamp, I'm sticking to bringing the hurt to Orgrimmar where it is. :P

[MMOTotal]

"Alliance Dalaran is pretty much confirmed"

Have a mod change the title then.

There are already dozens of thread for these kind of speculations.

It doesn't bother me. If you don't like the idea then I see not reason why you want to discuss it.

[Asatru]

I could actually see something like this happening. She gets uber pissed about theramore, travels to Dalaran, and literally uses her insane amount of magical power to throw the horde off of the flying city, thereby killing thousands and really lighting the fire of the renewed war.

Considering we all pretty much 5manned her in HoT, I doubt it! -cackle-

[Haidaes]

I, for one, was under the impression she was already on the Council. I guess this means she'll simply be trading her cool port citadel for that stupid circle in Dal with the others standing on it.

According to http://www.wowpedia.org/Council_of_Six she is not on it at the moment.

[Jeina]

I'd also like to reiterate that datamined sound files do not equal confirmed lore changes.

[MMOTotal]

I'd also like to reiterate that datamined sound files do not equal confirmed lore changes.

No, but it gives you a good idea of what is coming and will most likely be final.

[Venziir]

So something happens to Rhonin.
Jaina doesn't go as apeshit as most people thought.
But what of the Sunreavers (or rather their pro-neutral leader)? If they really played such a vital role in bombing Theramore, thus leading to Jaine becoming leader of the Kirin Tor - leading to the Sunreavers getting kicked out of Dalaran and out of the Council of Six then that's pretty sweet irony really.

[Jeina]

No, but it gives you a good idea of what is coming and will most likely be final.

Just like Grand Magister Rommath.

[dokhidamo]

Taking this from SoL, it's from 2008 but it shows Blizzard has put Dalaran in Alterac even if it was just for the picture.

http://www.scrollsoflore.com/forums/...ead.php?t=3773

... Not going to lie, that looks horrible. Let's just keep the status quo.

[luccadeo]

That would be a fantastic quest line. As Alliance you aid Jaina in kicking out the Horde and then teleporting Dalaran to some new location. As a Horde you have to hold off the attack long enough to get the last remaining Sunreavers out. After you complete these quests Dalaran in Northrend would be phased and not accessible to either faction. Then they could use the Sunreaver and Windrunner places in Crystal Song as a replacement FP.