Gun control

[Sealed Shut]

Since a mod decided to shut down the last thread due to and i quote "the OP story was a hoax", i will start a new thread without talking about that story.

Are you in favor of gun control? Completely, partially, or none at all?

I personally feel there should be some regulation, as there currently exists in the US.
The second amendment clearly gives us the right to bear arms, and is supported by several Supreme Court decisions.

Our rights of 'life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness' further backs the argument for the right to bear arms.
Good luck with life if an armed robber is in your house trying to kill/assault/rape/kill you and your family if you don't own a weapon.
Good luck with liberty if the situation ever arises where you need to overthrow an oppressive government.

I would ask that anyone from outside of the US to provide their country and that countries current gun laws to help other understand their current situation.

[inboundpaper]

No gun control, if you can afford it, you can buy it.

[Dezerte]

Tough question imo. I'll go with some gun control, and I think the key points are:

- Must pass an firearms exam
- Must have clean history (no crime etc)
- Mental & physical tests (to make sure you're "fit/ready")

[Fahrenheit]

How it's in the US curently.

[Sealed Shut]

How it's in the US curently.

ban on automatic weapons. no real regulations on shotguns and rifles... hand guns vary from state to state i believe.
someone with more info can pipe in on this.

[Reeve]

These threads always kinda go the same way.

Well here's my stance. I'd be OK with limiting gun ownership to hunting rifles/shotguns. Handguns are really only useful for killing people, and the same goes for assault rifles and fully automatic pistols.

People wil comment that we have a 2nd amendment right to own guns, in order to protect ourselves from the government. We're protected from our government because our military would never dream of attacking civilians. If the military were to decide to side with an oppressive government, there's no way in hell your home assault rifle would be able to protect you from assault helicopters and tanks and fully trained, armed, and armored US troops working as a team to take you out. The 2nd Amendment is an anachronism left over from the days when it'd be reasonably possible for some citizens hanging out in the woods to hold out against the military. That's a completely erroneous idea in the modern US.

[Sealed Shut]

These threads always kinda go the same way.

Well here's my stance. I'd be OK with limiting gun ownership to hunting rifles/shotguns. Handguns are really only useful for killing people, and the same goes for assault rifles and fully automatic pistols.

People wil comment that we have a 2nd amendment right to own guns, in order to protect ourselves from the government. We're protected from our government because our military would never dream of attacking civilians. If the military were to decide to side with an oppressive government, there's no way in hell your home assault rifle would be able to protect you from assault helicopters and tanks and fully trained, armed, and armored US troops working as a team to take you out. The 2nd Amendment is an anachronism left over from the days when it'd be reasonably possible for some citizens hanging out in the woods to hold out against the military. That's a completely erroneous idea in the modern US.

I often wonder why people think like this. A Civil War would end up being an Urban war... fought building to building, house to house. I dare say that you should read up on some of the current battles that took place in Iraq for example... in a city much smaller than most of the US cities.. Fallujah for example. Of course we won, but consider an armed civilian resistance in a city such as Houston.... Small arms would be very effective to a point.

[Reeve]

I often wonder why people think like this. A Civil War would end up being an Urban war... fought building to building, house to house. I dare say that you should read up on some of the current battles that took place in Iraq for example... in a city much smaller than most of the US cities.. Fallujah for example. Of course we won, but consider an armed civilian resistance in a city such as Houston.... Small arms would be very effective to a point.

And the military would still win, and you'd still be dead. The fact of the matter is that the US military would never get involved in a fight like that. If enough citizens rose up and wanted to overthrow an oppressive government, they wouldn't need guns in the US to do so. The guns would just get them killed, really, and solve nothing.

[Jackmoves]

Not an american but I'm for gun ownership with some requirments/restrictions in place. I find the way the 2nd amendment is worded to be a bit outdated so I wouldn't agree to having something like it here in my country.

- You should need to go through "extensive" training by professionals before being able to get a license
- All guns should be registrated
- Gun owners should have to install a safety locker at home where guns should be stored(protection against burglers stealing them etc)
- Should not be legal to carry them around on the street(conceled license)

As long as these things are followed I'm not against gun ownership or someone going to the shooting range or hunting.

Not all of the above is appliable to every sociaty I guess, personally I see it more as a risk of getting guns stolen by burglerers then a burglerer threatening me or my gfs life so having them locked up nice and sound to protect them from getting stolen is more of a priority then me having easy access to them in case of self defense, since the risk of that is so minimal.

[Deleted]

Tough question imo. I'll go with some gun control, and I think the key points are:

- Must pass an firearms exam
- Must have clean history (no crime etc)
- Mental & physical tests (to make sure you're "fit/ready")

this is what i would say aswell, i dont really like the UKs gun laws, it just means the only people with guns are the criminals, although its rare still, it does happen. i would prefer the option to obtain guns, but a lot of control on them, strict regulations on the type of gun, i would say only handguns and maybe some rifles, but no automatics. and what you said, background checks and mental tests.

[Trbodsl]

Gun control is a steady hand, leave it at that.

[Radux]

If a thread was closed for a reason, it might be a good idea to not recreate the exact same thread.

Locked.