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  1. #401
    Quote Originally Posted by Moinaldo View Post
    Keyboard turner + Same camera effects as WoW = Nothing to see here.
    My thoughts exactly. Keyboard turners and people that click abilities with the mouse shouldn't be complaining about things like this.

    It's fun to note that the OP has removed voting and comments on his video. I guess all the logic got annoying for him.

  2. #402
    Quote Originally Posted by grandpab View Post
    Isn't it called camera stiffness in WoW? I actually like a slight delay/inertia/softness/whatever you want to call it. Too stiff and the game just feels a bit off for me, but too soft and it's a bit annoying. I like where it's at in GW2.
    Well this raises an important point. The camera is very 'stiff' and jittery in WOW. If your mouse vibrates just a little bit, then your screen does too. It makes the camera movements in WOW very abrupt and sudden. This - while on the opposite end of the spectrum - bothers some people as well. It can causes motion sickness, since the human eye cannot track a moving object with too much vibration - and may lead to headaches in some.

    So basically, both too much camera "smoothing", and too little, can cause different people different problems. Of course, the simple and optimal solution to this issue is adding a checkbox in the options to turn "camera smoothing" on or off. Normally most companies can't be bothered to fix this sort of thing, but I believe ANet probably will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iCandy View Post

    It's fun to note that the OP has removed voting and comments on his video. I guess all the logic got annoying for him.
    BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Oh my

    LOL.

    Ahem.

    But yeah, people need to realize that different doesn't automatically mean inferior.

  4. #404
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmist View Post
    If you can't feel it, then enjoy the game. You've already paid for it, and I'm not trying to stop you. For me it's an annoyance. I do notice it. It's like the mouse is telling the camera where to go, but it's told to get there in a quarter second or so to make it look smoother. It's fast, but it's not immediate. I like immediacy. There is no way to turn this smoothing off. If I could ask them to do so, I would.
    I think this makes more sense. I tested GW2 on 2 different computers. One with an on board GFX card and the other with a pretty decent ATI card. The on board card played at about 13 fps and was very laggy. Turning left would turn left but it wouldn't stop when I stopped. It would stop about a half second later. The other machine worked a treat. I expected the one with the on board GFX not to cut it because it was under spec on the GFX side. I would guess that a lot of the problems people are complaining about are because of their graphics cards (either GW2 GFX issues or under powered).

  5. #405
    I really can't see any issues here.

    The camera zooms in and out when it comes in contact with the environment otherwise it would clip through walls. All MMO's do this.

    That keyboard turning was terrible to watch (arrgh), why would anybody play like this?! It would annoy me too if I was forced to play this way. Luckily I change A,D to strafing and use the mouse.

    There are animations in place when you strafe but that is only to make the character more fluid, if they didn't have this you would have instant direction change which would look unrealistic. Nobody in the real world can strafe instantly in the opposite direction, you decelerate then accelerate in the opposite direction. WoW doesn't have this but it also plays more like an arcade game.

    Also post your hardware, when you went into that city it looked terrible. The game is still unoptimised, only using one procressor core. This may help you (even though I had no issues with the camera during beta so you may still be out of luck)

  6. #406
    I use A and D as strafe and mouse turn. I don't have any issues with the camera or movement.



  7. #407
    Quote Originally Posted by JustintimeSS View Post
    I use A and D as strafe and mouse turn. I don't have any issues with the camera or movement.
    Exactly the same way 99% of the rest of the world plays MMO's.

  8. #408
    Quote Originally Posted by iCandy View Post
    Exactly the same way 99% of the rest of the world plays MMO's.
    According to the video though - Most people don't use WASD.....

    lol

    Honestly, I like keyboard turners. They die the fastest in PVP most of the time. I learned to circle strafe in vanilla wow as a rogue and as a tank - never looked back.



  9. #409
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    I love you guys. This is now officially my favorite thread.
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    So many people are gonna die.

  10. #410
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryngo Blackratchet View Post
    I love you guys. This is now officially my favorite thread.
    Wait...why? Do explain, I'm excited all of the sudden!

  11. #411
    Quote Originally Posted by iCandy View Post
    Wait...why? Do explain, I'm excited all of the sudden!
    Probably because people spent 21 pages arguing over what's arguably not an issue (which is what tends to happen when WoW fans come in)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryngo Blackratchet View Post
    Yeah, Rhandric is right, as usual.

  12. #412
    Quote Originally Posted by rhandric View Post
    Probably because people spent 21 pages arguing over what's arguably not an issue (which is what tends to happen when WoW fans come in)
    OOOOOOO...take that back. This thread will be closed quick than you can say LAWLPANDAS!

  13. #413
    Quote Originally Posted by iCandy View Post
    OOOOOOO...take that back. This thread will be closed quick than you can say LAWLPANDAS!
    My point is that people come in here and say "it's not like WoW, so it's bad", while the same (type of) people go/went into rift/swtor forums saying "it's just like WoW, it's bad"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryngo Blackratchet View Post
    Yeah, Rhandric is right, as usual.

  14. #414
    Quote Originally Posted by rhandric View Post
    My point is that people come in here and say "it's not like WoW, so it's bad", while the same (type of) people go/went into rift/swtor forums saying "it's just like WoW, it's bad"
    While I agree, I wasn't being totally sarcastic. Bad mouthing wow will result in a closed thread or result in WoW fans flaming us which will also result in a closed thread.

  15. #415
    I watch it and I have few holes into your arguments, well for one - I think wasd IS used by most unlike you stated that it is not. Also you are using A and D to turn - you should use strafe....
    "Bill Nye: So Todd I got an offer for you. You and me. Any time. Any place. Debating science mano- a-mano. I'll bring the facts, and you bring the Vaseline. Because your ass is gonna fucking need it when I'm done whipping."

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  16. #416
    Quote Originally Posted by jtgizmo View Post
    I watch it and I have few holes into your arguments, well for one - I think wasd IS used by most unlike you stated that it is not. Also you are using A and D to turn - you should use strafe....
    strafing in gw2 is slower, when you strafe you move at around 75% normal movement speed.

  17. #417
    Quote Originally Posted by Cranberries View Post
    strafing in gw2 is slower, when you strafe you move at around 75% normal movement speed.
    Not his point.

    He's pointing out that the OP is complaining about slow turning yet he uses the keyboard to turn instead of the mouse.

  18. #418
    Quote Originally Posted by iCandy View Post
    Not his point.

    He's pointing out that the OP is complaining about slow turning yet he uses the keyboard to turn instead of the mouse.
    exactly this
    "Bill Nye: So Todd I got an offer for you. You and me. Any time. Any place. Debating science mano- a-mano. I'll bring the facts, and you bring the Vaseline. Because your ass is gonna fucking need it when I'm done whipping."

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    Quote Originally Posted by iCandy View Post
    Wait...why? Do explain, I'm excited all of the sudden!
    Yeah, Rhandric is right, as usual. I got all worked up thinking there was this huge issue and wondering why I couldn't see it. Then, it just turns out to be a keyboard turner problem that effects almost no one and the ones it would be relevant to probably wont notice the issue anyway. It suddenly turned into a giant joke thread. One of these weird jokes where the punchline was right in front of your face the whole time and you go "D'awwwwww!!!! Oh you guys!!"

    <3
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  20. #420
    This thread is great.

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