[MoP] DPS Comparison: Hunter vs Elemental Shamman

[dzidek]

Yeah, another topic which class should I play in MoP... Almost

In my guild there are three extraordinary hunters (including my humble person ), but not even one exceptional elemental shaman... This is main reason why i consider reroll to ele shammy in MoP. But what about dps. I've heard that ele shammy dps is quite good. Maybe one of the best in MoP right now.

In beta i play shaman, and in 5-man hunters are always far far behind me in dps. I know that it possible that i've faced only poor hunters... I don't have raid compariosn in beta. Not yet.

Whats your opinion my fellow hunters? Is ele shammy can keep up with hunter in dps when MoP will go live? I'm talking about 10 man raiding.

I love my hunter and I like shamman, but my guild need good elemental shamman. Give my some reason to say no to them

[Hableqt]

You can barely break 40k on Ultrax with your gear, might as well give Ele Sham a go and see if you're better at that. Can't wait to get infracted for this.

[dzidek]

What will be point of this? On hunter I have 407 ilvl. On shammy 396 without set. As hunter i do about 42-45k, as shammy ~10k less. I'm asking about MoP, not current content...

[Dracodraco]

What will be point of this? On hunter I have 407 ilvl. On shammy 396 without set. As hunter i do about 42-45k, as shammy ~10k less. I'm asking about MoP, not current content...

His point is that you're almost in BiS gear, barring a ring, a trinket, and a belt. And you're barely breaking 40K damage on Ultraxion according to your logs. You're not exceptionally good as a hunter, so you might as well give the elemental shaman a try to see if you do any better.

[dzidek]

Quite old ones, without bis gear. Yesterday (first Ultra with Vishanka) I do 45k on Ultra. But its not a point in this threat. And yes, I know, i'm not exceptional player. Just a casual player with big mouth

In this threat I'm asking about your feelings or thoughts about competition in dps between shammy and hunter in MoP. I'm asking you to share your knowledge accumulated during the beta testing.

[Joyful]

Quite old ones, without bis gear. Yesterday (first Ultra with Vishanka) I do 45k on Ultra. But its not a point in this threat. And yes, I know, i'm not exceptional player. Just a casual player with big mouth

In this threat I'm asking about your feelings or thoughts about competition in dps between shammy and hunter in MoP. I'm asking you to share your knowledge accumulated during the beta testing.

The thing is, if you are a casual player that, from the looks of this last post, doesn't min-max/ try and push the dps to the limit, play what you like and find fun.

[lazybum]

dunno if you should of posted this in the hunter forums or the shaman forums, wouldnt you have a better chance of people in the shaman forums having done some testing in beta?

[jmacphee9]

either way numbers arent finalized at all, so the dps today is FOR SURE going to be different on launch day.

[Gotjuice]

Just like any other aspect of the game there are ups and downs. Classes will get nerfed and buffed so just because shaman/hunter has good or bad dps right now it doesn't mean it will stay like that. It may be like that for a couple of months and then next patch hits and it all changes. If you like playing hunter play hunter. If you want to please your guild and roll elemental then play shaman, my point being don't do it because of the current state of the game since that will always change.

Just like FOTM arena rerollers, they will always be bad because you have to play a class consistently to get REALLY good at it. In a couple of months your FOTM class will get nerfed and you'll be back to being your terrible self again. Hunter PvP is the perfect example of this, we've mostly been bad yet some people manage to make it work. How do they do it? They're good at their class!

[dzidek]

Shaman is extremly boring in MoP. I'll stay with my hunter Especially I've just switched to troll

[Joyful]

Shamman is extremly boring in MoP. I'll stay with my hunter Especially I've just switched to troll

Very good decision if I say so my self.

[Fallinsinner]

I don't think it matters. Play what you want.

[dexx]

You can barely break 40k on Ultrax with your gear, might as well give Ele Sham a go and see if you're better at that.

Whats that got to do with MoP? He's asking about dps capability of comparatively geared shamans and hunters in MoP raiding. Player ability is a different question.

[Jeremypwnz]

From what I've seen from logs from the Beta. Hunters are in a good position at the moment. Just like every other expansion beta, until the nerfs hit. Regardless, I'm gonna play both of my Hunters.

[Raar]

For some parses and for a blue post confirming hunter nerfs incoming
http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/2...-hunter-nerfs/

Copy and Paste of links for anyone too lazy to copy and paste for themself

The Stone Guard -- http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/1...um/damageDone/
Imperial Vizier Zor'lok -- http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/3...um/damageDone/
Protectors of the Endless -- http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/4...um/damageDone/
Feng the Accursed (perhaps the biggest imbalance) -- http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/s...um/damageDone/
Garalon -- http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/m...um/damageDone/
Tsulong -- http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/t...um/damageDone/

I think theres only 1 Hunter and 1 Ele Sham in there, but its at least something to look at. Keep in mind nerfs are incoming.

[vysions]

the hunter in those logs didn't use any special shots ie chimera, explosives and mostly used arcane shots. This will, as the above poster said, not be accurate especialy since the arcane shot nerf in the latest patch.

[Crooklyn]

the hunter in those logs didn't use any special shots ie chimera, explosives and mostly used arcane shots. This will, as the above poster said, not be accurate especialy since the arcane shot nerf in the latest patch.

the hunter was BM

[BleedingHollowVeteran]

For what it matters. Here's the SimCraft for the latest build.

http://simulationcraft.org/504/Raid_T14H.html

[Hableqt]

the hunter in those logs didn't use any special shots ie chimera, explosives and mostly used arcane shots. This will, as the above poster said, not be accurate especialy since the arcane shot nerf in the latest patch.

Not sure if......... serious...........?

[excellous]

hunter.....vs.....ele shaman.....who would win...... the gnome.