I may be shallow but when I was deciding who I wanted to take to prom, I based my choice on looks first, and then personality. I wouldn't go with someone I wasn't attracted to sexually. I could see a relationship being similar, except personality has a greater weight overall. If I'm not attracted to someone sexually, they're just a friend and nothing more. There has to be physical attraction for there to be any chance of a relationship.
I'd say, no matter how much people defend that they aren't shallow, deep down, looks DO matter.
must be different for straight women or maybe its just me but if a really hot guy's personality "turns me off" then I no longer find him "physically" attractive either...IE: I have "zero" interest in having sex with him
I prefer a woman that 5-7 out of 10 for looks, anything above that requires too much maintenance and I'm too aggressive to deal with guys constantly checking out my woman.
She must have a beautiful smile and personality.
For me, as long as a girl has a reasonably cute face (doesn't even have to be amazingly gorgeous, just not hideous), then personality is all I care about.
The way I see it is physical attraction is what starts a relationship and personality is what makes you stay
i have a question - do any of you believe we freely choose what we are "physically" attracted to without any coercion? or do you all believe we are "conditioned" to be "physically" attracted to certain things? or do you all simply believe we all are "born" with what we are "physically" attracted to? or perhaps we are "born" inclined to be "physically" attracted to certian things, but can be "conditioned" later to be "physically" attracted to other things or different things?
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1 - Nope, I don't think we choose.
2 - I think we can be conditioned yes, there's a lot to be said for the power of an average looking person charming you and making you feel good.
3 - I don't think we're born with it really, maybe for the first love but then we adapt.
4 - Yeah I'd say your last sentence makes the most sense, I mean it's kinda like if you grow up being attracted to bad boys, but then when you date one you feel like shit so you are conditioned to go after nicer people instead haha. I've definitely dated people that are the polar opposite of my husband.
hmmm well I do think personality>looks, there is this girl i have been well in love with since high school, I always viewed her as cute, and everyone else saw her as normal and what not and could no understand why I like this girl over my girlfriend of the time who most guys wanted to bone...and it was her personality, my gf was a rude bitch of a girl and I just started seeing her as a troll...I never view the other girl in any sexual ways because for me just being able to hold her was well enough. But I do think you need like 80/20 on this.
With few exceptions, the people that date individuals that they aren't physically attracted to are people who aren't attractive themselves. I suppose that sounds insulting, but it's not really intended to be. At some point, if you're not attractive, you've got to exercise a bit of self awareness and realize that if you want to be with someone, you'll have to compromise.
For the typical average looking schlub like myself, I'd say that physical attraction is always the starting point for a relationship.
True enough. I tried to phrase my comment in such a way that doesn't focus on a nominal standard of beauty, but rather on that eye of the beholder. Some people date individuals they don't find attractive, I know this because I've talked to people that feel this way! Attraction can develop over time with emotional vestment, it doesn't have to be present up front.
I wouldn't say I actually have a point though...
Good question. I don't know much about psychology, so feel to take what I say with a pinch of salt.
I think there are certain traits we are physically attracted to 'naturally'. However, within and around that, there is a vast array of things that we're attracted to - a lot of that must be conditioned, or learned.
Speaking on behalf of myself, my tastes in what I find physically/sexually attractive in men have changed dramatically over the last 10 years.
I also find that how physicallyattractive I find someone after getting to know them a little, is a lot more heavily influenced by their personality these days.
If someone is extremely good looking, but I find their personality off putting, I find them less 'stirring' physically - I start to notice any tiny flaw (even gorgeous people have flaws) and start to feel vaguely repulsed by them.
Our brains are weird.
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I think there's a good chunk of both involved. I wouldn't say we choose who we're attracted to, but I wouldn't say we're born with it either, or that it's set in stone by genetics. Very life experiences and other factors play in, without a doubt. For example, I'm a white guy in the US that generally prefers to date women of East Asian ancestry. I just find them more attractive. It would make something approaching zero sense to think this was genetic or otherwise innate.
I would rate physical attraction far below personality attraction. After all you can get a piece of ass on the side if you want, but quality women are really hard to come by.
While I agree with you, I think a lot more of that initial "spark" is chemical than is looks. There should be some basic level of looks, but the spark itself often has little to do with looks. I've been more attracted to some women who shouldn't have been attractive than I have been to women I think look really good a lot of the time. Physical attraction is more than just looks.
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I agree somewhat with the people saying physical attraction is what starts the relationship and personality is what keeps it going.
But if that physical attraction doesn't last, personality is not strong enough alone to keep a relationship healthy. (For most couples)
If you lose interest in your partner physically, it will change your attitude towards them even if you don't notice it.