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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimord View Post
    Hey dudes, help a noob out again!

    I'm currently using Darkmist Vortex + Shado Pan Assault trinket and I just got Ji-kun's Heroic trinket... I'm thinking about replacing Darkmist with Ji-kun's (and keep SPA one). Is that right or am I missing something again?
    Which trinket? If it's the Rising Winds one, that one is so crap, you're better off with....

    ...Ghost Iron Dragonling.

    If it's the feather, it's definitely better than Darkmist. Darkmist is not great because static haste is better than haste proc which tends to mess with the GCDs and stuff.

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    Yea, it's the Feather one, of course .

    Horridon's trinket also dropped but the damn DK took it .


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    Quote Originally Posted by MerinPally View Post
    Sorry, I heard there was a drunken reply from Firefly somewhere. I couldn't see it. Do you really want to compare drunken posts?
    It was drunken paladin reply, not drunken reply about whats happening in my dorm room right now!
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    I am so tired of seeing terrible people, being admired, for being terrible people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimord View Post
    Yea, it's the Feather one, of course .

    Horridon's trinket also dropped but the damn DK took it .
    Feather + SPA Exp trink (both reforged into haste) would be a good setup. DMV is utter trash, but a fking diamond compared to Rising Winds.

    You should really try to trade the Feather to the DK for the Spark, would be WAY bigger for him and Spark is likely better for you from a pure haste standpoint. Unless you coin rolled it (like me )! Feather on a DK playing festerblight makes for LULNUMBARZ.

    Either way, grats! And ditch the vortex ASAP, the above recommended setup is better for Ret as well btw.
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    Pff, understand you giving up on that thread in R&D Nairobi, those people are amongst the thickest I have ever seen. People really have no understanding on what numbers mean.
    Volun-told - A supposedly optional event, award, assignment, or activity in which a person (or persons) are required to attend either by persons-in-charge nominating them or their peers expecting them to be there. The individual often has no say in the matter, and non-attendance in frowned upon.

    I am so tired of seeing terrible people, being admired, for being terrible people.

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    Be careful when arguing with an idiot; onlookers will often have difficulty telling the two of you apart. They'll bring you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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    Good thing that the thread has managed to not be moved over here, otherwise I might kauhekuhfejna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhi View Post
    Good thing that the thread has managed to not be moved over here, otherwise I might kauhekuhfejna.
    Lock it, then infract them all for trolling

    That thread just reeks of the diatribe that warriors have been spewing since they lost their jobs as the supreme (and only) main tank class at the beginning of Wrath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler Log View Post
    Lock it, then infract them all for trolling

    That thread just reeks of the diatribe that warriors have been spewing since they lost their jobs as the supreme (and only) main tank class at the beginning of Wrath.
    I'd say they lost it before Wrath, even in BC i remember a fair number of bears / paladins.

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    Paladins was only used for AoE tanking (trash in mount hyjal wooo!)
    Bears was used for brutallus mainly due to higher threat!

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    Don't forget Protpal on Felmyst for adds. Gotta love that cast-time holy wrath *ohpleasedon'tgibmewhilecasting*
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  12. #2052
    Quote Originally Posted by Jouten View Post
    Paladins was only used for AoE tanking (trash in mount hyjal wooo!)
    Bears was used for brutallus mainly due to higher threat!
    This is only true for those raid groups who fancied themselfes 'hardcore' and those who never tried anything but warriors, because the either had enough tanks or listened to those 'hardcore' raids too much. I certainly knew of quite a few paladins and bears tanking in any and all encounters since bc.

  13. #2053
    Not too related to paladins, but anyone know if it's possible to plot a graph in WoL as damageTaken-healingDone (possible self healdingDone)

  14. #2054
    Hey guys, I've been using AskMrRobot for gearing decisions, but I'm starting to think....

    it's wrong.

    In your all's experience, is it an adequate resource for gearing the Control/Haste build? i.e. it has Soul Barrier as the #1 trinket with Lao-Chin's Liq Courage second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xol View Post
    Hey guys, I've been using AskMrRobot for gearing decisions, but I'm starting to think....

    it's wrong.

    In your all's experience, is it an adequate resource for gearing the Control/Haste build? i.e. it has Soul Barrier as the #1 trinket with Lao-Chin's Liq Courage second.
    It uses Theck's stat weight which highly values stam, it's not outright wrong but it depends on your preference.

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    u can change stat weights manually. just put haste higher than stam and it should do it

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    Hey Guys,
    just a short Question about Iron Qon 10 HC.
    We are going to give it a shot as our 4th HC boss in the tier. We actually wanted to try tortos as our 4th but we did not have the right setup at wednesday, so we skipped it for this week, but won't waste time, so we will at least try Iron Qon a bit.

    So heres the problem:
    This week we have two paladin tanks, me (armory in signature) and the 2nd one Kptnheal. So we could easily two tank it, but I think it's much better to solo tank it. While I think it wouldn't be that hard for me to solo tank it, the question is, if Kptnheal is capable of solo tanking it with his lacking gear. I would then just play retri with 520 ilvl, that we have two paladins in the raid to clear the debuff more often. Otherwise I would need to tank the boss solo and bring in another melee.

    greetings fisk
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    I cant post links yet but my character is named Lockitdown on the realm Velen. So if you could look it up and help, I'd appreciate it.

    This is my armory. I followed the guide unless I miss something. Ask Mr Robot says that I should regem everything so that I get more stamina and use a lot of gems that I havent seen anyone use. Am I following the guide correctly or did I miss something important?


    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by LedZeppelin View Post
    I cant post links yet but my character is named Lockitdown on the realm Velen. So if you could look it up and help, I'd appreciate it.

    This is my armory. I followed the guide unless I miss something. Ask Mr Robot says that I should regem everything so that I get more stamina and use a lot of gems that I havent seen anyone use. Am I following the guide correctly or did I miss something important?


    Thanks
    Look like 3 posts above you, someone asked the same thing. It uses a heavy weight on stamina, and while not completely wrong it's not optimal for all types of play.

  20. #2060
    Quote Originally Posted by Fiskaron View Post
    Hey Guys,
    just a short Question about Iron Qon 10 HC.
    We are going to give it a shot as our 4th HC boss in the tier. We actually wanted to try tortos as our 4th but we did not have the right setup at wednesday, so we skipped it for this week, but won't waste time, so we will at least try Iron Qon a bit.

    So heres the problem:
    This week we have two paladin tanks, me (armory in signature) and the 2nd one Kptnheal. So we could easily two tank it, but I think it's much better to solo tank it. While I think it wouldn't be that hard for me to solo tank it, the question is, if Kptnheal is capable of solo tanking it with his lacking gear. I would then just play retri with 520 ilvl, that we have two paladins in the raid to clear the debuff more often. Otherwise I would need to tank the boss solo and bring in another melee.

    greetings fisk
    Definitely one tank. And honestly, you don't need any other BoP's in the raid. I dont even run clemency or UbS, as I feel HoPur is far superior on that fight. Basically use wings/HA on the pull, then use HoPur at around 2 stacks, and on cooldown from then on. Glyphed DivProt can be used whenever, HPrism is great throughout (hits HUGE during last phase stomps!). GoAK ~4 stacks, AD/DivProt at 5-6. First dog should be dead at 6 stacks. Push next dog with HA again. Should be at 7 when the windstorm starts. BUBBLE BEFORE THE STORM or you'll likely die to the DOT while stunned.

    Kill wind dog, pick up lightning dog. Stack em up to ~5-6 again, BoP off when dog is at ~30-35% so you're clear going into last phase. Wings/HA/Lust when all dogs land, enjoy your 600-700k DPS and slaughter the dogs. Bubble will be up ~ 2 stomps in, and its GG from there.

    You really don't need to clear it more than that.

    But, if you don't have alternative characters/players to bring in, you can stay ret and toss BoPs. I'd suggest also picking up HoPur just to toss on the MT for fun, as clemency is WAY overkill on clears, unless you just want to BoP people during stomps or need the extra freedoms for people who suck at spears.
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