1. #3581
    Nairobi, I'd offer you my mage for that last spot, but a) you're alliance , b) while my mage hurts his back when I take him to raid (normal or LFR), he'd be (effectively) dead weight at only 528 ilvl I mean, I do well for my gear, but I can't stand up against what, average 540? :P

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    I think we're like 548 average now, with me bringing up the rear at 545 (see previous gripes about loot luck). And 528 isn't bad for an alt; I think my DK is like 525 but I haven't touched him in a few months.

    Recruiting has been a nightmare this expansion, hoping we can get some potential candidates, but we've only had ONE good pick up all of MoP, back in t14 when we were still 25. Granted, he's REALLY good, but we make that poor guy play Ret, Holy AND Prot lol.
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    I feel your pain when it comes to recruiting...

    We're on the only portuguese realm in EU, we're on the lowest pop side (Alliance) and due to people going off on vacations and shit we just lost our 1st spot within the faction and we're kinda stuck on 11/13HC... We've got the Lei Shen fight figured out but we just don't have enough DPS with all the people we lost (and replacements aren't up to the standard unfortunately).


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    Grats on your mount btw Nairobi.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimord View Post
    I feel your pain when it comes to recruiting...

    We're on the only portuguese realm in EU, we're on the lowest pop side (Alliance) and due to people going off on vacations and shit we just lost our 1st spot within the faction and we're kinda stuck on 11/13HC... We've got the Lei Shen fight figured out but we just don't have enough DPS with all the people we lost (and replacements aren't up to the standard unfortunately).
    Yep, with the sad state of some realms, it's really tough. Having been on SS so long, I kinda forgot how a "real" realm feels like. I hop in OQ groups on live servers and it's like I get agoraphobia lol.

    Maybe this "server merge" will make things a bit easier on recuitment, but I doubt it.

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    Grats on your mount btw Nairobi.
    Thanks! I've been working towards 200 (in the 190s now), but I'm too cheap to buy the faction ones like the Scorp, Dino, and serpents. Esp since I think I can get 200 with just the raid and PVP mounts in 5.4!
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    20k and counting...

  6. #3586
    528 isn't bad for an alt, especially one that's only killed half (the first 4 + the last 2) bosses, for a total of 13 kills in ToT normal Of course, my pally's only 531 ilvl (after getting the cloak this week...yes, my mage had the cloak before my pally), and only 8/12 so far...we're working on DA, and probably would've had him on Sunday if we had more than an hour (and a lot of downtime/prep) to raid then...ah well, I expect that my raid will be at 11/12 by the end of the raid week (unless people royally fuck up).

    I too feel your recruitment pain; I play on Kirin Tor, which has always been at best a medium server, and the population of horde raiders already all have homes in guilds (and that population has fallen since the end of WotLK, with a slight rise at the start of Mists).
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  7. #3587
    Quote Originally Posted by Nairobi View Post
    Yep, that extra step of the reticule really pisses me off. To the point that I haven't used it since entry heroic 5mans.

    The extra step of the reticule on LH AND the 1.5 sec GCD makes me REALLY angry too. Theck posted about it on his blog, which seems to garner some Blue attention, so maybe they'll follow through with the reversion of the non-hasted GCD on SS and LH. Someone mentioend that it was fixed on PTR, but not seen it cofirmed and I keep forgetting to check.
    I tried out the Consecration glyph a while back, but never again. I couldn't even imagine the frustration I would get using it now with >20k haste. With that much haste my rotation just flows along, and even having to stop and use LH is a pain, as is refreshing SS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nairobi View Post
    Also that.

    RaDen (and DA) once again juked my coin. Still no Conq EVER from DA, and still not one piece of plate, EVER from RaDen in our raid. Ugh...
    If it makes you feel any better I've gone from 512 > 545,63 in the past 5 weeks =)
    Last edited by Spacebubble; 2013-08-09 at 10:06 AM.

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    Again, one real easy "upgrade" to conc glyph is a autohotkey macro that you bind to the same button as your conc (say "n")
    And the bind does something like
    sleep 250
    send left mouse click

    Which allows you to drop conc in the "mouseover" style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacebot View Post
    does it make you feel any better that in the past ~5 weeks I went from 512 > 545,63 in my prot gear? :P
    Bitches be trippin! Watch out or he will eat you alive :-)
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  11. #3591
    Quote Originally Posted by Nairobi View Post
    Unless you're going for 2/4pc, our BIS items with Crit/Haste would be:
    Tortos Shoulders
    Animus Helm
    IQ Gloves (pending your hit situation)
    Wouldnt prot shoulder tier be a better piece, not taking account of a TF item? Mind the extra gem. If not overcapping hit, ofc.

    Take normal (522) pieces as a example:

    Tortos:
    504 crit
    336 reforged stat (if needed)
    866 haste

    vs

    Tier:
    416 Hit
    692 Mastery
    916 haste

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kethmil View Post
    Wouldnt prot shoulder tier be a better piece, not taking account of a TF item? Mind the extra gem. If not overcapping hit, ofc.
    He is talking about BIS. And BIS always translates to thunderforged heroic.

    Tortos just gives more DPS (even on an even level - like 522->522). Tortos is better itemized. It also has more Strength on it. While Tier gives you more haste on 522 9 times out of 10 the Hit you get is wasted or not needed. And mastery is not the go to stat in 10man. Most progression tanks will take crit over mastery if they can get away with it, since surviving is not an issue in 10man. Bottomline is, Tortos just gives you more punsh for your money.

    And if you compare HCTF with HC then they outshine Tier in every aspect, even haste. So it's a no-brainer there.

    Its most certainly different in 25man or 10man normal. The Tier Shoulders are perfectly fine and good even if you don't go for the 2p/4p. But BiS gear is BiS gear and it aims at progression and the currect meta game.
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    Last night i did checking on Tortos HC shoulders vs Tier, Tortos ones (not thunderforged) comes out on top haste wise with more then Prot tier ones both 2/2 upgraded.
    Tortos: 1053 haste
    Prot Tier: 983 haste

    Also have anyone considered Crafted helm? only helm i can find with more haste is HC TF Animus helm and in 10 man Thunderforged is less then likely. considering both 2/2 upgraded of course
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhag View Post
    Last night i did checking on Tortos HC shoulders vs Tier, Tortos ones (not thunderforged) comes out on top haste wise with more then Prot tier ones both 2/2 upgraded.
    Tortos: 1053 haste
    Prot Tier: 983 haste

    Also have anyone considered Crafted helm? only helm i can find with more haste is HC TF Animus helm and in 10 man Thunderforged is less then likely. considering both 2/2 upgraded of course
    Heroic tier helm has about 30 more haste as well fully upgraded.

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    Why are you even talking about Tortos shoulders?
    Reconstructed Furious Shoulderplates is the proper piece. 1246 haste even on shitty 543 version I got (bonus rolled on Ji-Kun this week). Over 1.3k haste on 549 ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethora View Post
    Why are you even talking about Tortos shoulders?
    Reconstructed Furious Shoulderplates is the proper piece. 1246 haste even on shitty 543 version I got (bonus rolled on Ji-Kun this week). Over 1.3k haste on 549 ones.
    Problem with those is how they drop, not easy to get a hold off compared to the Tortos shoulders.
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    is there a macro that i can use where it will allow me to just click on a person on my grid box and it will taunt off them, instead of clicking on the mob attacking them and then taunting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gutnbrg View Post
    is there a macro that i can use where it will allow me to just click on a person on my grid box and it will taunt off them, instead of clicking on the mob attacking them and then taunting?
    Only if they're targeting the mob, so its unreliable at best

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhag View Post
    Problem with those is how they drop, not easy to get a hold off compared to the Tortos shoulders.
    Yeah, I know, but as far as I understood, the whole talk was about BIS pieces.
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    Question time everyone!

    Durumus Severed Tentacle is on the BMAH. I highly doubt anyone is going to bid on this, so I could potentially buy it. Either way, I have 250k so I might potentially pursue it.

    http://www.wowhead.com/item=96481

    Currently, I'm using Seal of the Bloodseeker from the Klaxxi:

    http://www.wowhead.com/item=90862/se...he-bloodseeker

    Therefore, this Durumu ring is better than what I'm currently using. However, the Primordius Ring comes into play. I could get this on LFR difficulty but probably not any higher. That looks like this:

    http://www.wowhead.com/item=95756

    My question is, would the Durumu ring be better than the LFR Primordius Ring?

    The primordius ring would give 778 haste. The Durumu ring would only give 724 haste (reforging plus the extra hit lets me gain a little bit), and 400 stamina and 300 strength.

    I think this is pretty obvious (buy it) but right now my head isn't right due to a number of reasons. Please reassure me I'm not about to waste my money
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