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    So 60-75 seems about right then given I'm currently at 48.x% haste and using DP + Holy Prism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacebot View Post
    So 60-75 seems about right then given I'm currently at 48.x% haste and using DP + Holy Prism.
    To be fair, it isn't really possible to get much higher due to the GCD. It isn't like Starcraft or WCIII where you can start three buildings, create 10 units and send some units to a location in 1-2 seconds and being able to do this faster is a significant advantage.
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    Including movement, off gcd abilities (ShoR) and button mashing it should be several 100's
    Don't really think it should be compared to RTS games since most of it comes from accurate mouse clicks over there and less from managing/mashing 20 keybinds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nillo View Post
    Including movement, off gcd abilities (ShoR) and button mashing it should be several 100's
    Don't really think it should be compared to RTS games since most of it comes from accurate mouse clicks over there and less from managing/mashing 20 keybinds.
    Which is why we're talking ability usage and not including movement .

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    Right, we were all excluding movement/targetting (or at least I was). Purely factoring in "rotational abilities" both on and off the GCD, plus their actual GCD, PLUS lag/reaction time and being human.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nairobi View Post
    Right, we were all excluding movement/targetting (or at least I was). Purely factoring in "rotational abilities" both on and off the GCD, plus their actual GCD, PLUS lag/reaction time and being human.
    Especially as it is better tanking on many bosses if you stand still the whole fight (or at least minimize movement).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler Log View Post
    Especially as it is better tanking on many bosses if you stand still the whole fight (or at least minimize movement).
    What? Don't you know you get a +5% dmg buff if you side step for at least 20 seconds in a row? Works for rogues too. At least - that's what I tell myself all the time..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacebot View Post
    What? Don't you know you get a +5% dmg buff if you side step for at least 20 seconds in a row? Works for rogues too. At least - that's what I tell myself all the time..
    Not to mention the increased crit chance you get from jumping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    Not to mention the increased crit chance you get from jumping.
    No way!! D:
    Cheatorz!!

    I have only gotten once 10 stacks of Anima Ring from jumping. ^^
    Wasn't funny as I saw my char jumping right back at the middle of them, and I couldn't do anything. >_> It was the longest 0.5s of my life....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    Not to mention the increased crit chance you get from jumping.
    I had completely forgotten about that. Damn - all those ranks I could've gotten...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacebot View Post
    I had completely forgotten about that. Damn - all those ranks I could've gotten...
    Talking of that. Wouldnt it be awesome if Judgment got 20 yards increase range while you are in the air (a.k.a. jumping or falling)?

    Haha, that would be a really weird mechanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    Talking of that. Wouldnt it be awesome if Judgment got 20 yards increase range while you are in the air (a.k.a. jumping or falling)?

    Haha, that would be a really weird mechanic.
    Speaking of range of abilities. WTB bigger range on keg smash.

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    Hi, quick question, i'm on 521 ilvl atm, and i've gemed and reforged almost only haste, and i'm at hit cap , and 14 % exspertise.
    Like i said my gemming and reforeing is purely based on haste, but i haven't reforged items that have 2 usefull secondary stats that aren't haste, just so i could keep myself at 14 % expertise and 20 % mastery (goes to 25 % when buffed just so i can get my sotr to reduce flat 50 %). Is my current personal build ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JevtaSRB View Post
    Hi, quick question, i'm on 521 ilvl atm, and i've gemed and reforged almost only haste, and i'm at hit cap , and 14 % exspertise.
    Like i said my gemming and reforeing is purely based on haste, but i haven't reforged items that have 2 usefull secondary stats that aren't haste, just so i could keep myself at 14 % expertise and 20 % mastery (goes to 25 % when buffed just so i can get my sotr to reduce flat 50 %). Is my current personal build ok?
    It's "ok".
    After hit/exp cap you are free to go for haste or mastery, or a mix of them.
    I personally don't like mastery that much, but that is my preference only. (Sitting on 15% at i546.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanko View Post
    It's "ok".
    After hit/exp cap you are free to go for haste or mastery, or a mix of them.
    I personally don't like mastery that much, but that is my preference only. (Sitting on 15% at i546.)
    I'll keep it at 20 % during the next patch as well, never really wanted to get more of it since with BoM it gives me 50% on sotr and makes me feel safe when i pool holy power when i'm expecting snapping bite/triple puncture/harsh stare/talon rake etc to come.
    Thanks, i'll be getting more haste with item drops and reforge mastery when it get's above 20 %.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacebot View Post
    Speaking of range of abilities. WTB bigger range on keg smash.
    It used to be bigger. But yeah, having the boss move just .1 yards can really screw it up. I've really noticed it since we've been doing Lei Shen heroic the past few weeks.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nairobi View Post
    I'd say that's an upper bound for a Korean.
    I wonder if there's an APM tracking program for WoW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulleedot View Post
    I wonder if there's an APM tracking program for WoW.

    Haste build + Being Korean: I knew there was a reason I enjoyed prot so much.
    Skada and Recount both have an "activity" log that shows APM. I've been using it to track my team's ability usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongoose6 View Post
    Mitigation build as in Mastery>Parry>=Dodge (assuming hit/exp cap). I believe there may be something off with his rotation as well but I want to ask him prior to posting any logs.
    in what reality is parry greater than OR equal to dodge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    Talking of that. Wouldnt it be awesome if Judgment got 20 yards increase range while you are in the air (a.k.a. jumping or falling)?

    Haha, that would be a really weird mechanic.
    meh. I can remember judging things in another room during cataclysm. that was fun.


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    Quote Originally Posted by judgementofantonidas View Post
    in what reality is parry greater than OR equal to dodge?
    In the current one. -__- When wasn't it at least equal actually??
    Although it is still weak, so no-one cares about this.

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